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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2013, 05:24:02 pm »
Alex, did u get my PM regarding the LPFP ?
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2014, 05:55:39 am »
Forgot to come back with the results. The TT-RS pump install went fine with a minor mod to the floating mechanism as it was touching the wall of the tank (I suppose this was the cause for the fuel readings most guys have). Fuel reading is ok for me. After the install, car pulls much stronger but i see no more than 3.6-3.8bar although the requested is 4.5bar. Duty cycle is only 50-60% as opposed to 90-100% for the oem pump, which shows pump has plenty of capacity left but doesn't use it. May it be the oem controller limiting it ?
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2014, 07:58:38 am »

Oem controller or your mapping, or both. I would have though.  I have the TTRS pump too

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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2014, 08:46:59 am »
Forgot to come back with the results. The TT-RS pump install went fine with a minor mod to the floating mechanism as it was touching the wall of the tank (I suppose this was the cause for the fuel readings most guys have). Fuel reading is ok for me. After the install, car pulls much stronger but i see no more than 3.6-3.8bar although the requested is 4.5bar. Duty cycle is only 50-60% as opposed to 90-100% for the oem pump, which shows pump has plenty of capacity left but doesn't use it. May it be the oem controller limiting it ?

Did you do a basic setting for the pump after install?
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2014, 11:06:28 am »
Forgot to come back with the results. The TT-RS pump install went fine with a minor mod to the floating mechanism as it was touching the wall of the tank (I suppose this was the cause for the fuel readings most guys have). Fuel reading is ok for me. After the install, car pulls much stronger but i see no more than 3.6-3.8bar although the requested is 4.5bar. Duty cycle is only 50-60% as opposed to 90-100% for the oem pump, which shows pump has plenty of capacity left but doesn't use it. May it be the oem controller limiting it ?

The TT-RS pump install went fine with a minor mod to the floating mechanism as it was touching the wall of the tank (I suppose this was the cause for the fuel readings most guys have)

Hey Matey

what was the minor mod to the floating mechanism? Did you remove the one from the old pump to fit to the new pump?
Thanks
« Last Edit: April 09, 2014, 10:27:55 pm by scopes »
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #20 on: April 09, 2014, 11:07:27 am »

Having inaccurate readings Neil?

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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #21 on: April 09, 2014, 04:53:53 pm »
Fuscobal, have you replaced your fuel filter?  That has a pressure limiting valve for the low pressure side of the fuel supply.  :wink:
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #22 on: April 09, 2014, 05:18:06 pm »

Several people have fallen foul of incorrect fuel winter.


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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #23 on: April 09, 2014, 09:06:14 pm »

Several people have fallen foul of incorrect fuel winter.

Huh!  Confused dot com.

Maybe diesel, but not petrol . . .   :nerd:
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #24 on: April 09, 2014, 09:26:13 pm »
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #25 on: April 10, 2014, 12:02:01 am »
bacillus, I will do the adaptation asap, thanks. The mod for the floating mechanism consists of modifying the shape of the metal wire so that the floater comes closer to the pump's body and further away from the wall...you can see the pics on my install here > http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,12484.225.html

Teutonic, the fuel filter is 6bar if I recall correctly !
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #26 on: April 10, 2014, 09:33:02 am »
Teutonic, the fuel filter is 6bar if I recall correctly !

Have you actually changed the filter?  The filter itself has the pressure limiting valve for the low pressure side - and that may be foobar'd.  If your ECU requests 6bar, the controller on your low pressure lift pump may well be delivering 6bar, but the pressure limiting valve in the filter might be knackered (say only allowing 3bar), and and sending excess pressure (and therefore volume) back to the tank.

A relatively simple job to replace, and even if it doesn't fix the prob of low pressure, at least you'll hopefully be getting a better fuel flow.  :happy2:
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #27 on: April 10, 2014, 03:50:28 pm »
Replaced the filter 1 year ago and done like 3-4000miles since then. Should I replace it again wirh an identical one or can that pressure limiting valve be removed frim it ?
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Re: LPFP upgrade options
« Reply #28 on: April 10, 2014, 06:08:27 pm »

Several people have fallen foul of incorrect fuel winter.



The TFSI's come with a 6.4bar filter IIRC. The latest part number is 6.6 bar  :happy2:
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