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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2013, 08:55:30 pm »
Yeah XJAY1337 I'd appreciate a decent guide and I'm sure I won't be the only one  :smiley: the most confusing thing for me now is when/what/how when it comes to the detailing products. But I'm getting my head around it, one step at a time ehh ha.

Still no email from DW  :fighting: so I made another email and account and still no email  :confused:

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2013, 09:58:13 pm »
You using the same profile name on there mate?
Thinking about it I remember that for some reason it rejected the first time I tried to set up an account.
I then went through and set it up exactly the same,  using the same id and same email and it worked fine the second time!

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2013, 10:04:07 pm »
No I tried a different user name and email, il try what you just said  :happy2: il report back, hopefully 3rd time lucky

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2013, 10:12:06 pm »
No luck again try to register again using same name and password but just comes up this name and email is already in use obviously because it me ha I also sent a message to one of the admins/mods whatever yesterday but no word back, saying that I haven't seen anything like a inbox on DW must be one somewhere?

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2013, 01:48:26 pm »
Yeah XJAY1337 I'd appreciate a decent guide and I'm sure I won't be the only one  :smiley: the most confusing thing for me now is when/what/how when it comes to the detailing products. But I'm getting my head around it, one step at a time ehh ha.

Still no email from DW  :fighting: so I made another email and account and still no email  :confused:

It'll take me a while to write it as there is so much. Maybe 1/8th done and I've spent 2 hours on it already.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2013, 10:19:45 am »
if it helps I have a brand new Autobrite foam lance and 5litres of Autobrite snow foam for sale. Im in Cannock as it would need collecting ideally.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2013, 05:47:41 pm »

Hello mate.
Iron X won't strip wax.
VP citrus pre wash will strip wax, Magifoam wont.  :happy2:

Does Autosmart Tardis remove polish, sealant and wax?

I did a full detail on mine a fortnight ago, however my wax hadnt arrived by then so the car was finished off with polish and sealant.  The wax has since arrived and i want to apply it so the car has a full winter protection. 

Since then the car has got minging again witht the roads up here i was thinking of doing the full detail again including Snowfoam/2BM wash/IronX/Tardis/clay.  Would i need to repolish and seal again before i wax?

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2013, 06:45:37 pm »
Tardis is a tar removal product! It will remove stuck on wheel weights yes it will remove wax
You can't remove "polish" as it isn't a product that leaves any sort of residue to be honest.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2013, 10:01:49 pm »
Tardis is a tar removal product! It will remove stuck on wheel weights yes it will remove wax
You can't remove "polish" as it isn't a product that leaves any sort of residue to be honest.
:happy2:  God point about the wheel weights.  I hadnt considered them.

So Tardis wont effect any previous polish but it will remove wax.  What about the sealant i use to seal the polish?  Worth reapplying a sealant before waxing?

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #24 on: October 27, 2013, 10:44:07 pm »
You don't seal polish.
Polish is a term used for abrasive compounds which remove (or help to remove) microscopic screatches within the paint surface.
When you have finished polishing, you wax to provide a durable layer of protection to help prevent dirt from sticking to the surface, making future cleaning easier, and help prevent things like industrial fallout, road tar etc, from bonding with the paint directly (it tends to sit on the layers of wax).

Waxes and sealants are LSPs. Last step products.
You can apply both but you would always apply a sealant first if you are using both. This is because sealants differ in their chemical composition and often prefer to bond with bare band. Where as a wax which is generally quite oily will be more happy to bond with an existing base of protection.

Products like Autoglym "Super Resin Polish" are not really polishes, more like pre-wax cleansers , filler polishes or "glazes". They are abrasive yes but not enough to really remove many scratches or swirls from your car.  You might get a 10-15% correction using a product like that however the fillers and oils within the product will give the appearance of a 60-70% correction.

You need to seal or wax after these glazes or "filler polishes" because in their very nature the minute fillers and oils would otherwise wash away in a matter of weeks if left unprotected.
Locking the fillers against the paint surface means the fillers don't fade so easily and the effect of a more shiny car is maintained.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #25 on: October 27, 2013, 10:55:57 pm »
And to be honest there is a perfectly decent guide here

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4823.0.html

I'm sure his guide covers all the basics
I will finish my guide (which goes into more detail but his is more easy to read and follow) and post it up anyway but to be fair that one is good enough :happy2:
« Last Edit: October 27, 2013, 10:58:19 pm by xjay1337 »

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #26 on: October 27, 2013, 11:07:08 pm »
Your right.  I was using a Glaze hence the sealant.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2013, 12:13:55 am »
So yes on a glaze you can use a sealant or wax .
It depends which sealant or wax you are using, as I mentioned glazes have oils in them which some sealants don't like and can cause them not be as durable as they would be to bare paint.
Extra Gloss Protection lasts a couple of months and will work on top of a glaze.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2013, 06:21:44 pm »
You defiantly know your stuff Xjay thanks for sharing and posting that guide very good info for me  :smiley: . I'm going to try and get it done this weekend or next but il leave the polish out I think and just give it a few layers of wax before the crappy winter and salty roads come. Could you recommend me a decent pressure washer? I guess the pressure of them isn't very important is it as you don't use them right up agaist the paint.

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Re: Newbie detail-help/guideline
« Reply #29 on: October 31, 2013, 11:18:35 am »
Did you manage to get your DW ID through in the end mate? I emailed one of the mods for you too but again haven't heard anything back yet!
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