What upgraded HPFP are you running

[GrayMK5GTI]

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I wouldn't consider the Autotech - Too many people I know who are in the motor trade and whose opinions I respect, don't recommend it.

I have an APR and might have considered the Loba if it had been available at the time. Am totally happy with the APR, so great peace of mind.

For what its worth, I agree with this 

If it were a part completely external to the engine which if failed, wouldnt cause damage to the engine it wouldn't be so much of a concern, however a failing pump will leak fuel into your oil (probably without you knowing  ) which over time could cause serious problems.

Better safe than sorry with critical components like this IMHO 

[mdmay]

Thats what happened with my autotech pump. I only caught as when I was changing the oil. Never again. The sweetness of cheapness is long forgotten once the poor quality rears its head

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[AndrewJB]

Thats what happened with my autotech pump. I only caught as when I was changing the oil. Never again. The sweetness of cheapness is long forgotten once the poor quality rears its head

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Exactly

[berg]

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I wouldn't consider the Autotech - Too many people I know who are in the motor trade and whose opinions I respect, don't recommend it.

I have an APR and might have considered the Loba if it had been available at the time. Am totally happy with the APR, so great peace of mind.

on the other hand, two very well respected tuners in the VAG scene over the years (one of which who posts on here) told me that there are no issues with the autotech internals, only incompetent fitting, and that the only people who say there is a problem are the people who had bought the APR pump and needed to justify the cost to themselves.

having said that though if the Loba pump could be had sub £500 notes i would swap tomorrow because clearly  the APR and Loba pump are superior items and when you have spent over £15k on modding what is the difference between autotech internals and a brand new pump?

[Bernhard30]

Recently gone from Autotech to Loba.

Didn't have any issues and the Autotech always worked well...but always had a nagging doubt about longevity perhaps 5 or more years down the line.

So Loba pump whopped on by Mr Kerr..the first one to be labelled in their serial numbering..pump number 0001.

Loba does feel a tad more 'instant' - hard to quantify but better I think.

[sub39h]

Thats what happened with my autotech pump. I only caught as when I was changing the oil. Never again. The sweetness of cheapness is long forgotten once the poor quality rears its head

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Exactly

so then what about those APR pumps that increased cam follower wear in the US and took out some engines with it? i'm playing devil's advocate here but my point is that you cannot make a valid judgement on a single case.

like i said people will make judgement calls on how much "peace of mind" is worth to them. this will be based on the assumed risk and the price to reduce that risk. i feel that the increased risk of running an Autotech vs. a LOBA or an APR is negligible and on that basis paying 3x as much for an APR for less than 3x reduction in risk is not worth it. the LOBA makes a much stronger case for itself as a new addition to an unmodified car, but in my opinion does not justify replacing my Autotech.

The risk/benefit ratio is almost entirely subjective as from what I can tell there are no published figures on the numbers of each sold and the numbers of failures (and the subsequent damage caused and cost to rectify). but i take comfort in knowing that at least one supplier on here has sold hundreds of the Autotechs without a single failure.

if the Autotech ever does roger my fuel pump seals i'll replace it with an LOBA and just chalk it up to life experience.

[berg]

Thats what happened with my autotech pump. I only caught as when I was changing the oil. Never again. The sweetness of cheapness is long forgotten once the poor quality rears its head

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Exactly

so then what about those APR pumps that increased cam follower wear in the US and took out some engines with it? i'm playing devil's advocate here but my point is that you cannot make a valid judgement on a single case.

like i said people will make judgement calls on how much "peace of mind" is worth to them. this will be based on the assumed risk and the price to reduce that risk. i feel that the increased risk of running an Autotech vs. a LOBA or an APR is negligible and on that basis paying 3x as much for an APR for less than 3x reduction in risk is not worth it. the LOBA makes a much stronger case for itself as a new addition to an unmodified car, but in my opinion does not justify replacing my Autotech.

The risk/benefit ratio is almost entirely subjective as from what I can tell there are no published figures on the numbers of each sold and the numbers of failures (and the subsequent damage caused and cost to rectify). but i take comfort in knowing that at least one supplier on here has sold hundreds of the Autotechs without a single failure.

if the Autotech ever does roger my fuel pump seals i'll replace it with an LOBA and just chalk it up to life experience.

well said, just keep replacing the cam follower every service. i would be interested to change to loba, ttrs and fuel filter but that would be best part of £1k...

[RedRobin]

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I also agree with much of what sub39h has posted. It's a very well balanced and objective overview. 

[ROH ECHT]

Autotech, HPFP, APR in that order. I've had the autotech and have apr now. I would trust hpfpupgrade after reading many positive reviews. I would avoid kmd at all costs. My 1st was autotech, but it was ruined due to finding out, after I got the apr, that my tech had installed the used cam follower along with the new hpfp and so I hadn't planned on checking the cam follower for wear for another 4k miles :( KMD has had too many issues with previous versions that I would avoid which ever version they are on now...even though revo has gotten involved with their quality issues I believe. If I needed another at some point I would get autotech or hpfpupgrade.

[N8KOW]

This has confirmed I'll be going with Loba 

[vRSAlex]

This has confirmed I'll be going with Loba 

Good man 

[berg]

Autotech, HPFP, APR in that order. I've had the autotech and have apr now. I would trust hpfpupgrade after reading many positive reviews. I would avoid kmd at all costs. My 1st was autotech, but it was ruined due to finding out, after I got the apr, that my tech had installed the used cam follower along with the new hpfp and so I hadn't planned on checking the cam follower for wear for another 4k miles :( KMD has had too many issues with previous versions that I would avoid which ever version they are on now...even though revo has gotten involved with their quality issues I believe. If I needed another at some point I would get autotech or hpfpupgrade.

ROH, how do you rate the Autotech internals higher than the APR pump? I dont think anyone else is saying that the internals are superior, just querying whether it is worth changing

[Homer]

Well, let's see what people are running, and should i have missed an option please let me know  

Does this poll have an end date?? How do I see the results?

[AndrewJB]

20 Autotech, 17 APR, 8 Loba

thats the standings so far

[Hurdy]

20 Autotech, 17 APR, 8 Loba

thats the standings so far

Autotech is cheaper, APR has been around longer, so numerical comparisons don't mean that much.