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H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« on: October 26, 2013, 09:22:16 am »
Looking for opinions  on a handling set up looking at doing the following

Superpro Front Camber Adjustable Ball Joints
Superpro Anti-lift Kit
H and R arbs F +R
H&R montubes

Should be doing track days next year but also does get used a weekends

Any feedback or opinions appreciated

Thanks  Jon

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2013, 12:01:46 pm »
Looking for opinions  on a handling set up looking at doing the following

Superpro Front Camber Adjustable Ball Joints
Superpro Anti-lift Kit
H and R arbs F +R
H&R montubes

Should be doing track days next year but also does get used a weekends

Any feedback or opinions appreciated

Thanks  Jon

hi jon,
ive got most of the list above to go on my cupra K1 apart from the coilovers but lowered on eibach sportlines,id try the car as is when these are fitted and also do a 4 wheel alignment
i mainly do fast road and the occasional track days soon so ill wait before spending big money on the coilovers
also have you upgraded brakes/fluid etc?
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2013, 02:55:20 pm »
Currently running sportlines but its time for something better  :happy2: as for the brakes i have a VWR/Caparo set waiting to go on also :happy2:

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2013, 05:37:44 pm »
Looks like a good set up.

Have a look at adding some engine mounts, either Vibra Technics or THS or at least the lower engine mount and dog bone bush.

Also worth considering (they are not cheap though) the Unibrace products, the UB, XB and RB.

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2013, 06:21:32 pm »
Looks like a good set up.

Have a look at adding some engine mounts, either Vibra Technics or THS or at least the lower engine mount and dog bone bush.

Also worth considering (they are not cheap though) the Unibrace products, the UB, XB and RB.

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Got THS engine mounts  not considered Unibrace  is there a uk agent now?

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2013, 08:44:29 pm »
^^^^ Not that I know off. Like them on Faceache and they usually do some group buy. They have one running now.......

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2013, 09:08:42 pm »
Polybushing the car fully will also help along with an LSD  :happy2:
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2014, 04:31:42 am »
Forget about H&R Monotube coilovers on track. You WILL suffer from drive shaft issues.
Too many guys did this before.
H&R Clubsports (RSS & RSA) are the way to go (or KW Clubsports, AST etc., but at least
Sachs, Bilstein, VWR). I'd keep the Eibach springs and get Bilstein B8 or replace them
with a Bilstein B12 Pro.
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2014, 09:37:56 am »
Forget about H&R Monotube coilovers on track. You WILL suffer from drive shaft issues.
Too many guys did this before.


What sort of issues do they create?

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2014, 09:43:34 am »
Forget about H&R Monotube coilovers on track. You WILL suffer from drive shaft issues.
Too many guys did this before.


What sort of issues do they create?

I would also like info on this as mine are currently being fitted :scared:

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2014, 09:46:53 am »
Forget about H&R Monotube coilovers on track. You WILL suffer from drive shaft issues.
Too many guys did this before.
H&R Clubsports (RSS & RSA) are the way to go (or KW Clubsports, AST etc., but at least
Sachs, Bilstein, VWR). I'd keep the Eibach springs and get Bilstein B8 or replace them
with a Bilstein B12 Pro.

First I've heard of it. How can they cause driveshaft issues?
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2014, 12:34:52 am »
On both German and American GTI forums it's a very well known issue, mates.  :wink:

The H&R Mono has too much travel (at bump), so that the drive shaft touches the frame.
This is the case on track and sometimes even on street.

H&R Mono:






FK:


Remember the right-hand (driver side in the UK) driveshaft is longer than the left-hand:



Not an issue with most coilovers. Many H&R owners reported this, some KW V1-V3 and
FK owners, but as far as I know no AST, VWR, Sachs and Bilstein owners.

« Last Edit: February 12, 2014, 12:40:04 am by the bruce »
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 08:25:21 am »
Even when I fit the ultralow versions I don't see this issue.

Sold and fitted loads of these coilovers and not seen this issue yet.  Maybe just running them at a realistic height means there isn't too much travel and more preload on the spring.
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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2014, 08:59:52 am »
On both German and American GTI forums it's a very well known issue, mates.  :wink:


Are you saying it's a very well known issue to somebody that uses the German and American forums?

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Re: H&R montubes + Handling Mods
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2014, 03:55:10 am »
Right, mate.  :wink:

I really wonder why so few people here didn't know about that issue yet.
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