Dsg problem :(

[Jorj]

 Ok I have a problem with my mk5 dsg gear box.
Basically when I pull off from stand still, and try accelerate, the car sort of jerks before moving off an then it's fine until the next time I come to a standstill and  try drive off. It's very annoying when pulling off from traffic lights, round abouts and junctions as the car jerks and hesitates before pulling away.
When I pull off and give it alot of gas, the hesitation isn't there at all and car seems fine but I don't always want to launch the car from standstill.
Also when the Car coming to stop while driving, I feel a slight jerk when the box is gearing down.
I thought maybe the gearbox was in need of a service so had that done 2 weeks ago, and that didn't  change anything.
I also had the basic settings reset but done the test drive 2 hours later as ther was alot of traffic at the time.
I thought I'd see if anyone has the same Problem before I end up throwing loads of money to the mechanic and then discovering that it's something else? Iv been quoted 1400 to have the gearbox reconditioned but the mechanic said that was all he cud offer as there ate no fault codes on the gearbox module.

[doylebros]

Start with a full Scan with VCDS see if any one is near you on this list and come back with your results!

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,120.0.html

Start with the cheapest and normally the best "full scan" 

[Markyed30]

Sounds like a mechatronics fault mine is being replaced under waranty with practicaly identical fault

[Jorj]

Oh gosh that sounds expensive!
I thought maybe a fault code would show up on the transmission module if the mech unit was gone?
Did u have any fault codes showing on yours before the took it in to replace it?

[chowgar]

dont ECS do refurbed models?

[Jorj]

Ok so I didn't mention that on the engine side of the diagnostic it came up with camshaft position sensor (g40) p3007 012295 no signal. I know it sounds dumb but cud this have anything to do with the fault as there were no fault codes on the gearbox module?

[bacillus]

Check the connection to the camshaft position sensor. If secure, I would replace it (~£30 from VW) then see if it resolves anything.

[Jorj]

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ8W214159 Mileage: 199180km/123764miles
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Part No SW: 03G 906 021 PM HW: 03G 906 021 AN
Component: R4 1,9L EDC G000AG 1136
Revision: --H07--- Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N4852
Coding: 0000078
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 79F2E2063071A3D6D3D-802C
No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 1
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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 02E-300-0xx.lbl
Part No SW: 02E 300 050 F HW: 02E 927 770 AE
Component: GSG DSG 081 1404
Revision: 04708010 Serial number: 00000712051086
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 152ACEB63C2967B6575-8040
No fault code found.
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0021121
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 73EED02E121DD986991-8026
No fault code found.
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 820 047 HB HW: 1K0 820 047 HB
Component: Climatic PQ35 141 1010
Revision: 00141028 Serial number: 00000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6BDEC84E4A2D0146511-803E
No fault code found.
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 AJ HW: 3C0 937 049 AJ
Component: Bordnetz-SG H54 2202
Revision: 00H54000 Serial number: 00000007909705
Coding: E4890F2700041500471400001400000000087B075C000100000000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 71E2DA266801EB966BD-8024
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 131207 021 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 00000
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AF Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 090108 046 0204
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 00000
2 Faults Found:
02395 - Parking Light Front Right (M3)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 4
Reset counter: 17
Mileage: 198937 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.85 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
00978 - Lamp for Low Beam; Left (M29)
010 - Open or Short to Plus
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101010
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 234
Mileage: 199169 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2005.09.13
Time: 31:63:63
Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 14.25 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
　
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD1PLHZJ
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
VCID: 3D7A361664D95FF6BF5-8068
Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME2B615909E
Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME371170775
Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6352QSME4B181461D
Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6362QSME49491B35O
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BG HW: 1K0 953 549 BG
Component: J0527 051 0100
Coding: 0012022
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 78F4E7020B7BBADEAC3-802D
Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
Component: E0221 002 0010
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B HW: 1K0 920 974 B
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1216
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N4852
Coding: 0001403
Shop #: WSC 00000 067 57207
VCID: 2D5A0656B4B9CF760F5-8078
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530-V3.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 L HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533 Gateway H07 0052
Revision: H07 01 Serial number: 121207F2000251
Coding: ED807F060002020003
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 30641F22A38BA29E243-8065
No fault code found.
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 920 974 B HW: 1K0 920 974 B
Component: IMMO VDD 1216
Revision: V0002000 Serial number: VWX7Z0H03N4852
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5A0656B4B9CF760F5-8078
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1204
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 387427024BFB7ADE6C3-806D
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 M
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.070 H08 1901
Shop #: WSC 00000 028 00001
VCID: 3668293A41EF8CAE7EF-8063
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0204
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 819002005103087F2D04840570085FC690FC00
Shop #: WSC 00000 785 00200
VCID: 830E00EEC2BD6906091-80D6
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 D
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H07 9001
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Neigungssensor 003 0203
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 178 A
Component: Innenraumueberw.003 0203
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1220
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 3972220670F163D693D-806C
2 Faults Found:
00097 - Front Passengers Central Locking (Safe) Motor (V162)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
Component: Radio GR0 034 0033
Revision: 0003404S Serial number: VWZ2Z2G4747956
Coding: 0040402
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 68D4B7425BDB2A5E3C3-803D
1 Fault Found:
01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded
000 - -
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1206
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
VCID: 387427024BFB7ADE6C3-806D
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K HW: 1K0 959 704 K
Component: Tuer-SG 006 1302
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 1012552
VCID: 3972220670F163D693D-806C
No fault code found.
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[Jorj]

Ok so got the camshaft sensor changed and the gearbox  issue is still there....

[Saintsteve]

Mechatronics needs replacing.

[sam]

Hi,

Go and speak with your dealer, i paid £200 towards mine i think.

[Jorj]

Ok so when the mechatronic packs up, there are no fault codes?

[Saintsteve]

Ok so when the mechatronic packs up, there are no fault codes?

Doesn't always show, but common symptoms are 1st and Reverse gear slow or hard in change up/down.

Or like someone that's new to driving that not used to using a clutch and kangaroo 'ing violently .

Reverse gear also known to be slow to respond.

Knowing the history of these units, cars that were between late 2005 to mid 2008 were more prown to fail, more so later cars in that time frame.

If you've done, DSG oil and basic settings reset, unfortunately you are into a new Mechs unit.

[Jorj]

Yeah sounds like mines is in the early stages, driving threw gears while car is movin is fine, reverse is also good but moving off in first gear from stationary is the jerky problem when the car warms up and when the at is comin to a stop from 3rd to 2nd it makes a slight clunk sound.
Thanks for your help ppl, iv located someone from Bristol who repairs the mechatronic unit for 350 but gona call the dealers and see what kind of bill they have for me lol

[Mandy]

Yeah sounds like mines is in the early stages, driving threw gears while car is movin is fine, reverse is also good but moving off in first gear from stationary is the jerky problem when the car warms up and when the at is comin to a stop from 3rd to 2nd it makes a slight clunk sound.
Thanks for your help ppl, iv located someone from Bristol who repairs the mechatronic unit for 350 but gona call the dealers and see what kind of bill they have for me lol

This was the symptom I had recently, started off clunking gearing down from 3rd into 2nd, months later I noticed it also started doing it gearing down from 5th into 4th. Replacing the Mechatronics unit didn't solve it for me, replacing the clutch packs did.