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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #15 on: November 05, 2013, 01:44:38 pm »
No it didn't have performance pack

I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30



Turbo is not the be all and end all in cars power you know
Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/

That's not just a remap though bud, that reads that it's Stage 2 hardware and map making 289bhp; better than K03 but something any healthy Mk5 K04 can make with just a map. 

I very much doubt the tiny IHI Turbo could puff out enough to keep up with a Stage 2+ K04, even if the head design is better.

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #16 on: November 05, 2013, 06:02:00 pm »
I keep reading the mk7 GTI is lighter than the mk5GTI but is it? I thought when I compared the original quotes figures it wasnt. Maybe it is when actuallt measured?  :sad1:
Ex mk5 GTI owner, moved to a mk6 in 2010.

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2013, 06:32:57 pm »
Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.

One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"......  :confused:

Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..

It still is pants on track..



Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.

I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
   :wink:
« Last Edit: November 05, 2013, 06:50:05 pm by Saintsteve »

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2013, 06:48:32 pm »
Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.

One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"......  :confused:

if tiff says its pants then it is pants ...end of
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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2013, 10:10:37 pm »
No it didn't have performance pack

I didn't take note of the on screen changes that can be made as found gearbox in sport and mode sport on dash was good
60kg lighter than mk5
Ihi turbo, what's that versus ko4 say on ed30



Turbo is not the be all and end all in cars power you know
Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/

That's not just a remap though bud, that reads that it's Stage 2 hardware and map making 289bhp; better than K03 but something any healthy Mk5 K04 can make with just a map. 

I very much doubt the tiny IHI Turbo could puff out enough to keep up with a Stage 2+ K04, even if the head design is better.

Stage 2 is only hardware like an intercooler, intake and exhaust my man. Think it even says so in the text ;)

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When HG Motorsport first strapped the GTI to their dyno the results were susprising, because in stock form the GTI actually recorded 239HP and and 359NM, significantly up on Volkswagen’s quoted figures.

It all starts off at Stage 1, which uses a carbon air intake, Bull-X sports exhaust and HF Series intercooler to liberate 263HP and 376Nm from the turbocharged 2.0-litre.

Moving on to Stage 2, HG then remap the GTI’s ECU. The result is 289HP and 405Nm.

The final stage requires more serious optimisation of the ECU to squeeze the last few drops from the GTI’s powerplant. Sadly there aren’t any performance figures but it’s safe to say you’d notice the difference, even at just Stage 1.

Read more at http://drivingspirit.com/hg-motorsport-golf-gti-mk7/#UiYxREgLhyc35Pjj.99/quote]

So it did, surprisingly..
Turbos are not the be all and end all like I said. A smaller housing can still have larger (relative to size) turbines .. doubt they are actually any smaller than the k03s , combined with better airflow...

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #20 on: November 05, 2013, 10:23:36 pm »
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Reports are about 300bhp from a remap on a Mk7 in Europe..
It's not making ~300bhp on just a map which is what you originally stated bud. :happy2:

K04 FTW :pomppomp:

Now, strap a K04 to the TSI engine... :party: (although probably wouldn't bolt up)


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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2013, 10:29:43 pm »
argh. a technicality.  :P

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2013, 12:29:24 am »
Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.

One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"......  :confused:

Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..

It still is pants on track..


Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.

I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
   :wink:

Drivel!! As per usual!! You wouldn't know a decent handling car if it came down and knocked you off your ladders!!! 
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 12:32:30 am by richwig83 »

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2013, 12:43:57 am »
fortunatley the Mk7 i'm thinking of allows you to completely turn off the driver aids and has a race mode

interesting having driven 5/6/7 back to back i'd agree the 7 is to planted but point to point was quicker over my favourite B road despite having least amount of power, 300 miles showed it was the better car, however, whether it felt special is a totally different argument

end of the day not everyone wants a Megane RS, M135 or a car built in 2007 but at least make a decision when you've driven one

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2013, 06:58:43 am »
Just saying.... You seem to think that's the final casting vote for some reason.

One person didn't like it and now it's "pants on the track"......  :confused:

Oh please!!! Give me a break.. Tiff is a well respected Racing driver, and his verdict of a car on the limit is worth considering if buying a mk7 GTi to maybe eventually modify..

It still is pants on track..


Watch the video for yourself, you can see the brakes are continually trying to straighten up the car.

I would be happy, as he says the Edition 30 was much better and Vw have ruined a good car.
   :wink:

Drivel!! As per usual!! You wouldn't know a decent handling car if it came down and knocked you off your ladders!!!  

In your own opinion  :P

Go blow your own trumpet fella... Oh hang on a minute....
« Last Edit: November 06, 2013, 07:02:04 am by Saintsteve »

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #25 on: November 06, 2013, 09:05:35 am »
 :signLOL:  wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #26 on: November 06, 2013, 04:30:32 pm »
:signLOL:  wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.

Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it  :notworthy:

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2013, 04:58:20 pm »
I couldn't care less about its track manners as that isn't somewhere I am likely to drive it, but if its electronic safety nets stop me or the actions of others from an accident then I am all for them.

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2013, 05:37:25 pm »
:signLOL:  wrong instrument. But I'll let you off.

Whatever it is you blow, I know you enjoy it  :notworthy:

I do.... Problem?

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Re: Mk7 gti dsg
« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2013, 05:52:29 pm »
But the Mk5 when stock is also pants on track!!  If ou bought a car based on its track manners you wouldnt own a GTI