Fifth gear tonight...mk7 tiff's verdict

[Saintsteve]

On now.....     

Discovery 520 HD or 561 on Sky.

[Marc-5-GTI]

 

[Marc-5-GTI]

So the electronics kill it... I knew it would!

Like the link to the MkV where he says you can actually have fun 

[Saintsteve]

You heard it 1st....

mk5 Edition 30 on the track is much more fun then the Mk 7 GTi. 


 

Anyone ordering a 7 wanna think again 

[MAT ED30]

Yep mk5 better than mk6 and 7  we are in control more of our cars 

[MC71]

Bollox, missed it. 

Is it repeated sometime. 

[xjay1337]

I drove a Mk7 and thought it was better than my GTI.

Electronics dont kill it at all.

[Andy]

sky channel 520 tues at 12pm

[MC71]

^^^^ Planner set, cheers fella. 

[MAT ED30]

I drove a Mk7 and thought it was better than my GTI.

Electronics dont kill it at all.

Well tiff is a driving legend so he knows best  and if the car is braking when I don't want it to that's bloody annoying

[xjay1337]

I drove a Mk7 and thought it was better than my GTI.

Electronics dont kill it at all.

Well tiff is a driving legend so he knows best  and if the car is braking when I don't want it to that's bloody annoying

Of course his driving ability is very good
But then you will realise not to take everything that car reviewers say as fact. More like take it as pub opinion.
I drove back to back my GTI and the Mk7 GTI and the Mk7 drove tighter, was faster, turned in nicer, held apex better, had nicer noise, and rode more nicely.
Only thing I didn't like was the position of the cruise control.

[MAT ED30]

Have you changed all the suspension bushes on your gti a brand new car always will feel tighter than say a 7 year old car they always do. I drove brand new cars every day and they are tighter but change your old bushes and the car will feel tight again. If you have changed your bushes and had your car set up i am sure your will be as tight as a ducks arse 

[xjay1337]

I said that yesterday 

Yes, it is an IHI turbo.

The MKVII is a totally different chassis to the MKV and uses the new MQB chassis module that is both stiffer and lighter than the MKV chassis, so overall the MKVII is around 60kg lighter. Combine that with more power and torque and it will feel much better. The MKVII you drove also could also have the performance pack and adaptive chassis control, which add to the driving experience.

When I test drove one with the adaptive chassis but no performance pack, it really was a revelation.
However - most of a cars handling and response are in it's bushes. So who's to say that a BRAND NEW Mk5 wouldn't handle "similarly".
To be fair for the breadth of ability of the car the asking price suddenly becomes less steep. Yes you can buy a 135m for the same money (basically) but just because it's got 100bhp more, doesn't necessarily make it a faster car over a country road, or a nice place to sit (the inside of the 1-series is like Eeores bottom)

Anyway I had new front wishbone bushes with TT console bushes so fairly new bushes all round.

[swgti]

First report I've seen on the Mk7 that doesn't say it's an excellent car, some reckon the best Gti yet.
 
They do great reviews on 5th gear but I always tend to feel they only seem to concentrate on judging the car at it's absolute max, now if that's a supercar well fine but a bit harsh when your testing a hot hatch as I bet there are only a very small group of Mk7 owners that will ever get their cars anywhere near the limit he was driving at.

[karl210]

The way he was driving the mk7 round that track you would never drive like that on the road so the esc system probably wouldnt hinder you. If i was buying for track then i would buy a ed30 and have plenty of cash to spend on it, or preferably something rwd. The mk7 can only be better than the mk5 when its not pushed like that