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Car taking an age to warm up
« on: November 05, 2013, 06:18:53 am »
Hi Everyone

We've only had our GTi about a month and it's always seemed to take an absolute age to warm up.

My commute to work is a bit of b road then dual carriageway + motorway for about 40 mins in the morning. I don't thrash it and it consistently takes c.20mins to get warm. It doesn't even move on the gauge for the first 5-6mins.

When the car gets to 90c it stays there, rock solid.

Surely this can't be right on a modern petrol engine?

I've done a bit of reading around and i'm thinking....

1) Replace coolant temp sensor
2) Possibly replace coolant (think I saw a post about VAG coolant helping their warm-up problems but can't see how??)
3) If those fail then new thermostat

Thoughts?

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2013, 06:44:15 am »
seems to be common on theses cars, mine does the same as u

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2013, 06:44:40 am »
Thermostat :-)

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 08:05:34 am »
It's fine they all are like this. I can get 9 miles to work and the temp has not reached optimum

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 08:11:43 am »
Hi Everyone

We've only had our GTi about a month and it's always seemed to take an absolute age to warm up.

My commute to work is a bit of b road then dual carriageway + motorway for about 40 mins in the morning. I don't thrash it and it consistently takes c.20mins to get warm. It doesn't even move on the gauge for the first 5-6mins.

When the car gets to 90c it stays there, rock solid.

Surely this can't be right on a modern petrol engine?



I've done a bit of reading around and i'm thinking....

1) Replace coolant temp sensor
2) Possibly replace coolant (think I saw a post about VAG coolant helping their warm-up problems but can't see how??)
3) If those fail then new thermostat

Thoughts?

I had a similar problem on mine, except that it never got up to temp properly - sometimes would on a motorway drive.
I changed the coolant sensor first as that was an easy DIY job and they are prone to failure. - about £35? Didn't make much difference except it read more accurately!
Eventually bit the bullet and got the stat changed. Looked at doing it myself - its do able - but difficult and time consuming - various links on here.
My Local Dealer took 3 hrs and that is book time. I spoke to the mechanic afterwards 'its a sod of a job for what it is!' They also found a couple of pipes that were getting perished, so changed those at the same time - no extra labour. Coolant change as well.
There is a marked difference is warm up time now. No, they not quick at all to get up to temp! I know mine is all ok but it take 3 -4 miles of B roads to get there. But the performance is better and fuel consumption has improved.
GTI ownership joys!


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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 08:37:42 am »
Ok, can't believe mine is right as it took 21 mins and 15 miles to get warm today.

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 09:06:38 am »
Mine takes a very long time as well.
I drove 8-9 miles before it was up to temperature.

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 09:28:03 am »
The gauge only reflects water temp, oil temp will be longer again will it not?

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 09:37:07 am »
I would suspect it would be fairly similar.
Mk5 GTIs have oil temp sensors you can check with VCDS.

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2013, 09:52:55 am »
Sounds like a stuck thermostat, my R gets to 90 degrees (water) after about three/four miles (winter driving). The oil on the other hand.. when my water reached 90 degrees, I checked the oil temp via highline computer and it was a mere 56 degrees... and to think a lot of people think its safe to 'boot it' once the water's up to temp  :scared:
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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 10:28:23 am »
I drive 6 miles to work, after 2 1/2 the coolant is at normal and after 5 1/2 the oil temp matches the coolant temp, according to the Polar display interface.

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2013, 11:53:34 am »
Sounds like a stuck thermostat, my R gets to 90 degrees (water) after about three/four miles (winter driving). The oil on the other hand.. when my water reached 90 degrees, I checked the oil temp via highline computer and it was a mere 56 degrees... and to think a lot of people think its safe to 'boot it' once the water's up to temp  :scared:

Your R is a TSI engine, very different.
And who boots it the minute the temp gauge gets to 90.

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2013, 12:05:39 pm »
Sounds like a stuck thermostat, my R gets to 90 degrees (water) after about three/four miles (winter driving). The oil on the other hand.. when my water reached 90 degrees, I checked the oil temp via highline computer and it was a mere 56 degrees... and to think a lot of people think its safe to 'boot it' once the water's up to temp  :scared:

Your R is a TSI engine, very different.
And who boots it the minute the temp gauge gets to 90.


Nope.... The R is TFSI mate... Same (roughly) lump as ED30/S3

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2013, 12:50:56 pm »
Sounds like a stuck thermostat, my R gets to 90 degrees (water) after about three/four miles (winter driving). The oil on the other hand.. when my water reached 90 degrees, I checked the oil temp via highline computer and it was a mere 56 degrees... and to think a lot of people think its safe to 'boot it' once the water's up to temp  :scared:

Your R is a TSI engine, very different.
And who boots it the minute the temp gauge gets to 90.


Nope.... The R is TFSI mate... Same (roughly) lump as ED30/S3

Thought I was going mad thinking it was a TFSI.  IIRC the brand new 300bhp S3 is TFSI too... they aren't putting a lot of confidence in TSI are they...

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Re: Car taking an age to warm up
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2013, 01:28:25 pm »
I wouldn't know in this case, but sometimes these things are based around emissions etc.

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