Mk 7 R

[tony_danza]

Yeah that's what I mean, there's an 8:14 claim, but no link to where it's come from??

Edit: there's a claim on a Ring times website the 8:14 source was Auto Zeitung (German version of Auto Express). 3 months ago. No ref to it at all on AZ's website, and how they'd have had a Golf R to test 3 months ago is beyond me.

Sorry. Whilst I'm perfectly happy to accept car car is capable of the time, I think that's a bit dodge at the moment.

Peers:

Mk6 Golf R                ring 8:34   Hockenheim 1:17.9
Mk6 ED35                 ring 8:38   Hockenheim 1:19.0
Mk7 GTI (perf pack)   ring 8:29   Hockenheim 1:17.8
8V S3                       (no Ring)   Hockenheim 1:16.8 (M135i x-drive 15.3)

M135i                       ring 8:18   Hockenheim 1:15.7
RS3                          ring 8:20   Hockenheim 1:15.4
1M                           ring 8:15   Hockenheim 1:14.1

As some kind of base, the 8V S3 is slower around Hockenheim than the last 3 I've added there, which wouldn't bode well for its time around the Ring - can the Golf R be *that* much better than an S3? Remains to be seen. I'd take a punt at it coming in with an 8:20ish.

4WD broadly speaking buys you a bit of time over FWD around the shorter, twisty track - as you can see the MK6 R and MK7 GTI have .1 in it, but then the MK7 really claws back time on the Ring.

Source for all = Sport Auto

S3 v M135i x-drive test
General lap time board

[Poverty]

I think you are probably right I'll see if I can find the article of the Golf R time, the scans must be somewhere.

Nice to see that the TTRS hockenheim lap time still obliterates the competition. Viva la TTRS 

[Poverty]

Ok I've found it, autozeitung quote that time as a VW claim.

[tony_danza]

Yeah, you'd not think the TTRS and RS3 were so closely related eh!! Very quick indeed.

I hear the R has a 'Race' mode - wonder what that is then?? I'd be genuinely chuffed to see it run an 8:14, that'd be some leap forward and exactly what it needs. I'll take VW's claim as a pinch until I see someone else test it though.

[rich83]

I think race mode is just another "level" on the chassis electronic thingy-majig!

[wigit]

From Volkswagen UK website

Adaptive Chassis Control (DCC) is an option.  For the first time, this offers a ‘Race’ mode, which increases damping, thereby reducing body movements.  In conjunction with the driver profile selector (standard on all Golfs from SE), Race mode also attenuates throttle response, and alters the shift pattern of the DSG gearbox (where fitted).

On top of ESC Sport mode, as found on the GTI and GTD, which delays intervention of the electronic stability control system, the R offers the option fully to disengage the ESC, for track driving.

[tony_danza]

Nice! 

Presumably locks out the DSG too into full manual.

[Saintsteve]

From Volkswagen UK website

Adaptive Chassis Control (DCC) is an option.  For the first time, this offers a ‘Race’ mode, which increases damping, thereby reducing body movements.  In conjunction with the driver profile selector (standard on all Golfs from SE), Race mode also attenuates throttle response, and alters the shift pattern of the DSG gearbox (where fitted).
Also makes the cars ECU to deploy the brake pedal to stop driver enjoyment 
On top of ESC Sport mode, as found on the GTI and GTD, which delays intervention of the electronic stability control system, the R offers the option fully to disengage the ESC, for track driving.

[Poverty]

 Not if ESP is fully turnt off before hand...

[rich83]

Nice! 

Presumably locks out the DSG too into full manual.

My thought is that i will still auto up shift!

[Poverty]

The TTRS and rs3 will bounce off the limiter till you shift

[Saintsteve]

Not if ESP is fully turnt off before hand...

Tiff off fifth gear couldn't get it to fully turn off..hated it

[Oli]

Where can you configure  the Golf R

[rich83]

Not if ESP is fully turnt off before hand...

Tiff off fifth gear couldn't get it to fully turn off..hated it

Ive watched that video... and all he was trying to do is get the back end to step out. That isnt really how you drive a car fast on the road. (nice glimpse of the ed30 on there though  )

[tony_danza]

Clearly the new GTI is still faster than an ED30/35, even if you can't turn it all off....