Make a donation

Author Topic: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine  (Read 3368 times)

Offline Simmo

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 136
New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« on: November 07, 2013, 10:16:04 am »
Does anyone know if new S3 (and I assume upcoming Golf R 2014) engine is the same base engine as previous versions - i.e. TFSI CDL variant or whether it is a TSI thats been tuned?

Also if it is the same engine, anyone know what the modifications are?


Cheers

Offline Hedge

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 484
  • -Receive: 304
  • Posts: 6621
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 11:40:55 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Offline GrayMK5GTI

  • Global Moderator
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 125
  • -Receive: 248
  • Posts: 4165
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 11:51:04 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Ian is right. Its taken VAG a while to learn how to get the K04 to work with the TSI, as they originally struggled to do it with the MK6 Golf R and went with the old TFSI in the end.

I wonder if they will keep the exhaust manifold integrated into the Cylinder Head?
NOW: 2015 Golf R DSG 5 Door, Lapiz Blue, 19s, Discover Nav, Reversing Camera
GONE:2007 Black GTI Edition 30 3dr

Offline Snoopy

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 31
  • -Receive: 15
  • Posts: 671
Ex mk5 GTI owner, moved to a mk6 in 2010.

Offline Scottymon

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 83
  • -Receive: 125
  • Posts: 2139
  • UnNaturally Aspirated
  • My Ride: http://www.voodish.co.uk/misc/6n/6n-alive1.jpg
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 06:11:37 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Offline GrayMK5GTI

  • Global Moderator
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 125
  • -Receive: 248
  • Posts: 4165
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 07:15:39 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI  :happy2:
NOW: 2015 Golf R DSG 5 Door, Lapiz Blue, 19s, Discover Nav, Reversing Camera
GONE:2007 Black GTI Edition 30 3dr

Offline Scottymon

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 83
  • -Receive: 125
  • Posts: 2139
  • UnNaturally Aspirated
  • My Ride: http://www.voodish.co.uk/misc/6n/6n-alive1.jpg
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 07:21:12 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI  :happy2:

Now that's enough to drive you bonkers right there. :rolleye:  They called the Mk6 R a TSI when it was a TFSI, now they are going to call the Mk7 R a TFSI when it's a TSI..... pop.

Offline Simmo

  • Always Involved
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 136
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 07:32:28 am »
Cheers, gotta love vags naming convention!

Offline Hurdy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 52
  • -Receive: 137
  • Posts: 7683
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 09:31:09 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Where does it say it is a K04 Ian?

I've been trying to find some hard evidence on the make of turbo as I had heard rumours that it is an IHI turbo.

I'd like to know for sure though. :smiley:
Golf R gone.

Offline Hedge

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 484
  • -Receive: 304
  • Posts: 6621
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 11:29:02 am »
That is an assumption on my part John. :ashamed:   :sad1:

If not K04 then at least K04 sized.

Offline vRSAlex

  • Admin
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 253
  • Posts: 2761
    • Email
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.0.html
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 02:03:20 pm »
The engine is loads different to the TSi and FSi.  Manifold is built into the cylinder head.

www.akstuning.co.uk - info@akstuning.com - 01234 822324
Follow AKS tuning on Facebook

Offline vRSAlex

  • Admin
  • Just look at my post count
  • *
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 39
  • -Receive: 253
  • Posts: 2761
    • Email
  • My Ride: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,19941.0.html
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 02:07:40 pm »
www.akstuning.co.uk - info@akstuning.com - 01234 822324
Follow AKS tuning on Facebook

Offline Shorty

  • Won't Shut up.
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 5
  • -Receive: 24
  • Posts: 872
    • Email
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 06:19:09 pm »
I read that about the manifold on the head and thought surely not that can't be right, but yeah it is! Could that cause problems if you want to put a bigger turbo on and go for more power?
| Mk7 R |

Vehicle Diagnostics inc VCDS, Vehicle Remapping and any other diagnostics in the North West area, PM me.

Offline rich83

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 165
  • -Receive: 802
  • Posts: 13444
    • MK5 Golf GTI
  • My Ride: https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=eo31na7da79jpdd51fd36q7dpl&/topic,19740.0.html
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2013, 06:32:22 pm »
Looks somewhat restrictive!

Offline Janner_Sy

  • Just look at my post count
  • ******
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 62
  • -Receive: 113
  • Posts: 5392
Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2013, 06:53:24 pm »
Its the same on the 2.0T in the Focus ST.  Apparently there to make the car more "efficient", bu they seem to be the strangle point in the tuning potential.