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New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« on: November 07, 2013, 10:16:04 am »
Does anyone know if new S3 (and I assume upcoming Golf R 2014) engine is the same base engine as previous versions - i.e. TFSI CDL variant or whether it is a TSI thats been tuned?

Also if it is the same engine, anyone know what the modifications are?


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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2013, 11:40:55 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2013, 11:51:04 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Ian is right. Its taken VAG a while to learn how to get the K04 to work with the TSI, as they originally struggled to do it with the MK6 Golf R and went with the old TFSI in the end.

I wonder if they will keep the exhaust manifold integrated into the Cylinder Head?
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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2013, 06:11:37 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2013, 07:15:39 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI  :happy2:
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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2013, 07:21:12 pm »
So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI  :happy2:

Now that's enough to drive you bonkers right there. :rolleye:  They called the Mk6 R a TSI when it was a TFSI, now they are going to call the Mk7 R a TFSI when it's a TSI..... pop.

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2013, 07:32:28 am »
Cheers, gotta love vags naming convention!

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2013, 09:31:09 am »
I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Where does it say it is a K04 Ian?

I've been trying to find some hard evidence on the make of turbo as I had heard rumours that it is an IHI turbo.

I'd like to know for sure though. :smiley:
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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2013, 11:29:02 am »
That is an assumption on my part John. :ashamed:   :sad1:

If not K04 then at least K04 sized.

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2013, 02:03:20 pm »
The engine is loads different to the TSi and FSi.  Manifold is built into the cylinder head.

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2013, 02:07:40 pm »
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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2013, 06:19:09 pm »
I read that about the manifold on the head and thought surely not that can't be right, but yeah it is! Could that cause problems if you want to put a bigger turbo on and go for more power?
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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2013, 06:32:22 pm »
Looks somewhat restrictive!

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Re: New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2013, 06:53:24 pm »
Its the same on the 2.0T in the Focus ST.  Apparently there to make the car more "efficient", bu they seem to be the strangle point in the tuning potential.