New Audi S3 (2012) / Golf R (2014) engine

[Simmo]

Does anyone know if new S3 (and I assume upcoming Golf R 2014) engine is the same base engine as previous versions - i.e. TFSI CDL variant or whether it is a TSI thats been tuned?

Also if it is the same engine, anyone know what the modifications are?


Cheers

[Hedge]

I believe it's a TSI with K04.

[GrayMK5GTI]

I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Ian is right. Its taken VAG a while to learn how to get the K04 to work with the TSI, as they originally struggled to do it with the MK6 Golf R and went with the old TFSI in the end.

I wonder if they will keep the exhaust manifold integrated into the Cylinder Head?

[Snoopy]

New S3 engine details
http://www.audi.co.uk/about-audi/latest-news/new-audi-s3-with-300ps-and-40mpg-bound-for-paris.html

[Scottymon]

So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

[GrayMK5GTI]

So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI 

[Scottymon]

So the new S3 and Mk7 R, are (lol) TFSI again...?

Audi I retained the TFSI name, but the engine is as we know it - a TSI  

Now that's enough to drive you bonkers right there.   They called the Mk6 R a TSI when it was a TFSI, now they are going to call the Mk7 R a TFSI when it's a TSI..... pop.

[Simmo]

Cheers, gotta love vags naming convention!

[Hurdy]

I believe it's a TSI with K04.

Where does it say it is a K04 Ian?

I've been trying to find some hard evidence on the make of turbo as I had heard rumours that it is an IHI turbo.

I'd like to know for sure though.

[Hedge]

That is an assumption on my part John.    

If not K04 then at least K04 sized.

[vRSAlex]

The engine is loads different to the TSi and FSi.  Manifold is built into the cylinder head.

[vRSAlex]

[Shorty]

I read that about the manifold on the head and thought surely not that can't be right, but yeah it is! Could that cause problems if you want to put a bigger turbo on and go for more power?

[rich83]

Looks somewhat restrictive!

[Janner_Sy]

Its the same on the 2.0T in the Focus ST.  Apparently there to make the car more "efficient", bu they seem to be the strangle point in the tuning potential.