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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #150 on: September 15, 2009, 12:35:43 pm »
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #151 on: September 15, 2009, 12:50:53 pm »
Interesting bit on Autocar...

New version of Haldex which can shunt 100% of the drive to the rear.
Driver selectable ESP/suspension settings with "track" mode
Harder than the 'Rocco R

Lots of money at £28k+....

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #152 on: September 15, 2009, 12:56:02 pm »
Autocar are morons mate. Haldex cant do that!

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #153 on: September 15, 2009, 12:58:22 pm »
autocar do often hype things but i wouldnt rule it out being possible to put all the drive on the rear?

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #154 on: September 15, 2009, 12:59:41 pm »
Autocar are morons mate. Haldex cant do that!

To be fair, they didn't actually mention "Haldex" - that was me  :ashamed:
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #155 on: September 15, 2009, 01:03:53 pm »
autocar do often hype things but i wouldnt rule it out being possible to put all the drive on the rear?

It will break, it was never designed for that!

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #156 on: September 15, 2009, 01:05:04 pm »
start saving boys - this thing is going to be north of £28k !!!!!
That will probably not include Sat Nav (c.£1250), Recaros (c.£1500 - as they are in the TTS), + other goodies
Also looks like there will be limited numbers available, so the residuals will be high for a coupel of years.

It is also quoted that it will weigh 35kg less than an R32 - anyone know what the 3/5 door weight is of an R32.
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #157 on: September 15, 2009, 01:06:02 pm »
On the plus side, it'll drop MKVI GTI prices through the floor....
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #158 on: September 15, 2009, 01:17:19 pm »
start saving boys - this thing is going to be north of £28k !!!!!
That will probably not include Sat Nav (c.£1250), Recaros (c.£1500 - as they are in the TTS), + other goodies
Also looks like there will be limited numbers available, so the residuals will be high for a coupel of years.

It is also quoted that it will weigh 35kg less than an R32 - anyone know what the 3/5 door weight is of an R32.

If that is true then it is basically the weight saving of the 2.0TFSI over the V6 lump, which tells me it is about the same as the S3.
If it is a re-skinned S3 without anything evolutionary over it, then I'll be sticking with the Eddie a little longer.

Price is comparative to the S3 too.
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #159 on: September 15, 2009, 01:25:13 pm »
^^ Apparently it has a new 4WD system and re-programmed ESP... I think this is more likely the system lifted from the TTS, rather than S3??

One for the test drive.
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #160 on: September 15, 2009, 01:37:07 pm »
start saving boys - this thing is going to be north of £28k !!!!!
That will probably not include Sat Nav (c.£1250), Recaros (c.£1500 - as they are in the TTS), + other goodies
Also looks like there will be limited numbers available, so the residuals will be high for a coupel of years.

It is also quoted that it will weigh 35kg less than an R32 - anyone know what the 3/5 door weight is of an R32.
1510 kgs for the R32 mate, so 1475kgs for the new R (heavier than the new RS and the old S3). Think i'll be picking up a brochure for the Rocco R instead if this is the case. Don't like to go to a slower car when I change..  :grin: Or dare I say it, a 135i..  :laugh: Well it is going to be cheaper than the Golf with the spec i'd want..  :surprised:

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #161 on: September 15, 2009, 01:46:01 pm »
why did i have to see tha alcantara buckets oh why  :party:  :party:  :party:

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #162 on: September 15, 2009, 02:09:03 pm »
do like those recaros

Cannot wait to get the full details from VW  :popcornsoda: - defiently consider this in 18months - was tghinking normal roco or dare I say it Alpha Brera - seeing these pics though think I know my choice  :party: :party:

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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #163 on: September 15, 2009, 02:16:43 pm »
If the R20 is 35kg lighter than the 1510kg outgoing R32, it gives it a power to weight ratio of about 185bhp per tonne. A standard Mk6 GTi has about 160 bhp per tonne.

1480kg ish for the R20 sounds too heavy by just adding 4wd. Hopefully the snippets of info we keep picking up like this are false.

I can't help feeling that the R20 looks too much like the Mk5 R32 (too restrained) - I actually think the wheels are the best looking thing about it
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Re: Pics of R20.....
« Reply #164 on: September 15, 2009, 02:17:02 pm »
so R-Line cars are going to be made with the new 4-Motion....

As standard equipment, the Volkswagen Golf R transfers the TSI's power to the road via the latest generation of Volkswagen's 4Motion all-wheel drive system. Compared to the version implemented in the Golf R32, the system underwent significant advanced development. Above all, power transmission between the front and rear axles - especially the all-wheel differential that operates in an oil bath - exhibits clear advances compared to the previous generation. The most important one: Activation of the all-wheel differential no longer requires a difference in speeds between the front and rear axles.

That is because, different than on the previous generation, for the first time an electric pump is used to build pressure. The electric pump supplies oil to a hydraulic reservoir whose working pressure is 30 bar. A control module computes the ideal drive torque for the rear axle and controls, via a valve, how much oil pressure is applied to the working pistons of the multi-plate clutch. The contact pressure at the clutch plates rises in proportion to the desired torque at the rear axle. The amount of torque that is transferred can be varied continuously with the magnitude of the pressure applied to the clutch plates. Compared to the previous 4Motion generation, the system operates independent of slip, since the system's working pressure is always available. When starting up and accelerating, this prevents spinning of the wheels at the front axle more effectively, since the control module regulates the torque distribution based on dynamic axle loads. In extreme cases, nearly 100 percent of the drive torque can be directed to the rear axle. This results in further gains in active safety and dynamic performance.


sounds clever  :nerd:
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