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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2013, 07:05:29 pm »
For what it's worth

Option 2 is the way I would go.

Next I would request what Scottymon suggested but with the parts being supplied at trade and you've got yourself a lot of parts and repairs at a fantastic price!

The bit I'm puzzled at is why they want anything from the RAC since they seem to accept it's down to VW.

I wonder if there double dipping and being paid by VW and you, just a thought!

Thanks for the info and I am thinking of going down that route.

Could be that they are getting VW to pay and charging me but then
Would VW really supply a brand new engine to fix the issue. Would they
Not just cover the cost of repair maybe.

What is the DMF/Clutch that scottyman was on a about and what sort of
cost would that roughly be?

Is there anyway of me finding out if VW were covering the cost and they
were charging me.

Also thinking of maybe seeing if they will knock the price down a bit

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2013, 07:11:29 pm »
Scottymon is telling you new clutch and dual mass flywheel!

Ask the dealer for the VW reference number as you would like to discuss your case with their agent?

I have had a case where the Merc dealer charged me, the warranty company and claimed off Merc as well!


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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2013, 07:24:55 pm »
Scottymon is telling you new clutch and dual mass flywheel!

Ask the dealer for the VW reference number as you would like to discuss your case with their agent?

I have had a case where the Merc dealer charged me, the warranty company and claimed off Merc as well!



Okay, do you know roughly what they cost?

The garage seem to be on the level and in one
sense I do want to make sure they are not
Overcharging but then 500 quid for a new engine
is a bargain even if they are getting that in top
of VW paying. i also presume the labour charge which they
Might not get off VW would be hefty and would be a
Garage cost

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2013, 07:29:29 pm »
VW pay them a reduced labour rated.

As for the clutch I've never bought one I'm sure someone will come back and tell you :happy2:
« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 07:31:15 pm by doylebros »

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2013, 09:00:44 am »
Looks like I am going for the Option 2 and New Engine which will cost me around £700 max which also includes the initial diagnosis and the oil change and a few other bits all + VAT

I am going to check all the documentation and get some sort of reference in which I can probably contact VW to check the Engine was paid for by the garage and not actually given to the garage in agreement to fix a defect which VW took responsibility for.

Has anyone got any prices on the DMF/Clutch that scottyman mentioned.

Also is there any other parts I should see if I can get repaired while they have the engine out to save on Labour possibly.

And might sound stupid but as the Engine will be brand new but the other parts of the car not what sort of service schedule to I keep. FOr instance if the car was due for a Service say January next year do I keep to that even though the Engine should not need anything checking?

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #50 on: December 07, 2013, 01:18:01 pm »
Glad to see your getting somewhere.
Shocking that honest john link, with lack of lubrication leading to piston failure  :scared: .How come iv'e never heard that one??

I guess you need their advice on the state of your clutch, turbo, (supercharger if you have one),starter motor,alternator etc when they get the engine out and start to strip bits off.

I would hope they would all be A ok at 57K.
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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #51 on: December 07, 2013, 01:40:55 pm »
If your having to pay towards it, tell them you want a CDL version.

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #52 on: December 07, 2013, 02:23:53 pm »
If your having to pay towards it, tell them you want a CDL version.

I will have to ban you from posting on my thread scottyman if come out with anymore of these technical terms which I have no clue what they are.

What do you mean CDL version

Glad to see your getting somewhere.
Shocking that honest john link, with lack of lubrication leading to piston failure  :scared: .How come iv'e never heard that one??

I guess you need their advice on the state of your clutch, turbo, (supercharger if you have one),starter motor,alternator etc when they get the engine out and start to strip bits off.

I would hope they would all be A ok at 57K.


Paulw123 - When they said putting on a totally new engine they led me to believe this would be replacing everything including turbo, supercharger and possible the other bits. If this is not the case what should I make sure is being replaced?

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #53 on: December 07, 2013, 06:23:50 pm »
Just spoke to the dealer a while ago and came to the below decision. Let me know if I am doing the right thing please

Went with the new Engine Option as did not feel comfortable just repairing it

So the deal I have made is

New Engine cost: £500
Initial Diagnosis Fee: £35
Oil Filter/Change: £22.50
Anti-Freeze and something else but cannot remember what it was: £17.50

Total of £575 + VAT so £690 in total

I tried getting the cost of Engine down but he said he was already forking a lot in good will so I settled on this.

Obviously saves me on having to now get a Cam Belt or Water Pump for a very long time but I also negotiated getting the below which for me is good but others may have done better.

 - New Oil Filter after 1000 miles for £22.50
 - Service when it is due for £100 instead of their normal £160
 - It is likely due to have new brake pads/discs within the next 6 month so they advised would do the parts with 30% discount and not charge for the hour labor which they charge at £55 + VAT per hour

I have been advised the New Engine will also have 2 year warranty and should be ready for me by next Friday at the latest.

It seems a good deal to me if I consider what I am getting and not that I should not be in this position after only 3 months. Plus I think for short term cost pain I will have long term cost gain/savings.

Nice to see what other people think as I have said I will ring them Monday morning to sanction the new engine so have until then to change the deal or my mind.

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #54 on: December 07, 2013, 08:12:52 pm »
I think you've done very nicely  :congrats: and will enjoy all the benefits going forward :happy2:

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #55 on: December 07, 2013, 09:27:30 pm »
I think you've done very nicely  :congrats: and will enjoy all the benefits going forward :happy2:

Yeah I am hoping so

I was just about to order some black VW badges and debadge
the golf and tsi sign along with a few other mods before this
happened so hopefully that can get back on track now

Thanks everyone for the advice  :happy2:

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #56 on: December 10, 2013, 08:37:20 pm »
Hi All,

Sorry to bump this post back up to the top but got curious while I am awaiting the call to say my car is ready to pick up with the new engine in  :smiley:

The dealer roughly explained that a new engine will replace all the parts in the main engine as opposed to a reconditioned one which will not.

However has anyone got a comprehensive guide or link which will tell me what exactly ill be replaced and what will not. For instance I know the main engine block will be fully replaced but apart from pistons and valves I do not have a clue what else is in there that will be replaced.

Also in terms of what will not like turbo and supercharger etc is there anything else big or vital that will not.

Just trying to get a basic grasp on what I am and am not getting now I have took the decision.

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #57 on: December 10, 2013, 09:07:51 pm »
Items supplied depends on the part number to purchase it  - so if it's 03C 100 091 FX base engine (BLG) £3617.46 inc vat

Comprising of:-
Crankcase
Crankshaft
Pistons
Conrods
Cylinder head
Cylinder head cover
Control Valve
oil pump
Timing case
Camshaft timing chain
Sealing flange
Oil sump
Oil cooler
Oil filter
Spark plugs

Against that number!

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #58 on: December 10, 2013, 09:14:04 pm »
Cheers Doylebros,

Probably just worrying over nothing but I presume VW do a current 1.4 TSI Engine 170bhp like the one in my car now.

And do they change the Engine block much in terms of technology as my old engine was obviously 2007 Engine as opposed to this one being a 2013 one

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Re: Urgent Advice please
« Reply #59 on: December 10, 2013, 09:22:53 pm »
What engine code you got in your vehicle now?