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which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« on: January 08, 2014, 11:08:20 pm »
Hi guys
Looking at getting a mk5 diesel...which is the best engine? Might end up modding....so bear that in mind for re mapping etc
Cheers in advance?
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2014, 11:15:34 pm »
170, early 140's were gay, CR are best... A puppy dies
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2014, 11:32:06 pm »
Think I'm right in saying the 140 is more tuneable than the 170.
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2014, 11:35:17 pm »
Quote from: Scottymon on January 08, 2014, 11:15:34 pm
170, early 140's were gay, CR are best... A puppy dies
early 140 are gay  :surprised:
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2014, 11:38:01 pm »
Yeah they have porous backsides
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 11:50:16 pm »
nothing wrong with my back side :signLOL:
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 12:16:43 am »
I ain't sayin nuffin.
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2014, 12:17:58 am »
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2014, 01:04:29 am »
PD170 engines are TERRIBLE.
They do not work with the DPF at all.
the BKD 140 engine is actually better and what I would go for...
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2014, 05:18:02 am »
Quote from: xjay1337 on January 09, 2014, 01:04:29 am
PD170 engines are TERRIBLE.
They do not work with the DPF at all.
the BKD 140 engine is actually better and what I would go for...

OP want to get it modded so I would go for PPD170, with a DPF off and remap you should get 205-210 without crazy amount of smoke try to get this just with remap from 140...

I bought Leon FR more than 3 years ago and if I ever have to sell it it will be a sad day for me ...
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2014, 09:14:18 am »
What's wrong with the BKD140 for tuning? If I was buying another TDI to be tuned I would get a BKD 140 engine. Darksides Jetta got over 310bhp and could make more.

Outside of the turbo (which is only slightly difference) and the injectors having slightly larger nozzles, they are no different to the PD170 engine
 
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2014, 09:25:06 am »
Don't forget that DPF is now a visual inspection on MOTs, so if you're gonna remove it then make allowances for this.
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2014, 09:50:32 am »
Quote from: Scottymon on January 08, 2014, 11:15:34 pm
170, early 140's were gay, CR are best... A puppy dies

CRs are gay
The head design is crap and a major bottleneck once you approach 260bhp.
The BKD head will flow to 330-340.

Marko is right! :D

Quote from: Viking on January 09, 2014, 09:25:06 am
Don't forget that DPF is now a visual inspection on MOTs, so if you're gonna remove it then make allowances for this.

Be the same "issue" with De-cats lol, we all know "a mate"
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2014, 10:06:06 am »
Quote from: xjay1337 on January 09, 2014, 09:50:32 am

Quote from: Viking on January 09, 2014, 09:25:06 am
Don't forget that DPF is now a visual inspection on MOTs, so if you're gonna remove it then make allowances for this.

Be the same "issue" with De-cats lol, we all know "a mate"


Yep, but just in case someone goes charging off and gets it riven off and then fails an MOT... forewarned etc.  :happy2:

Besides, the fact that they're unable to remove anything for an mot would mean that any "heatshield" fitted would hide the presence ( or absence) of a DPF or CAT.  Shouldn't be too hard to knock one up from sheet aluminium. :wink:
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Re: which is best? 140 or 170 PD
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2014, 11:35:11 am »
Quote from: xjay1337 on January 09, 2014, 01:04:29 am
PD170 engines are TERRIBLE.

Quote from: xjay1337 on January 09, 2014, 09:14:18 am
Outside of the turbo (which is only slightly difference) and the injectors having slightly larger nozzles, they [140] are no different to the PD170 engine
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