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MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« on: January 24, 2014, 10:24:21 pm »
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Re: MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2014, 10:35:35 pm »
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In a recent column for Top Gear magazine, Jeremy described the longest crash of his life. It may or may not have happened while filming this power test. And it may or may not have been in the BMW M135i. It may have been in the 
Golf GTI. Although – on an alarmingly wet track – a front-drive VW is surely 
a safer bet than a meaty, rear-drive BMW. Either way, the skid marks 
will be there for years.

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Re: MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2014, 10:48:28 pm »
Let's face it, the MK7 GTI will get raped against the M135i even in the wet... and rightly so, the M135i is more atuned to the 7R (similar price too)

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Re: MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2014, 10:49:43 pm »
Let's face it, the MK7 GTI will get raped against the M135i even in the wet... and rightly so, the M135i is more atuned to the 7R (similar price too)

I thought so too Scott, but apparently the M135i isn't as good in the wet as it should be, according to Evo (and maybe the TG report too).

The likes of Mike (tony_danza) and Luke (Deako) can probably confirm the real story?  :driver:
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Re: MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2014, 10:57:11 pm »
Yikes if the 35i can't demolish the GTI7 then what hope does it have against the 7R in the wet?  FURTHER still the 7RR/Evo...

TBF, 400bhp hot hatches really blow my mind in reality... some 2020 Year sh*t right there.

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Re: MK7 GTI vs M135i - Top Gear Season 21
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 09:41:48 am »
I heard about this story, apparently it was biblically wet and he hit standing water at 130+ on the TG track - car sat up on the water, span and he finally stopped somewhere near Madrid.

  :signLOL:

No defence from me, a RWD is harder to save, everyone knows that. FWD you simply stick your foot down, point at where you need to be and prey. Watch the BTCC, the ebay 1 series didn't have any issues in the rain.

I'd take a punt that he had all the driver aids off (something you can't do in the GTI) as they'd no doubt been doing some spectacular TV broadside drifting.

In day to day driving, even in Sport+, it's no more difficult to control in the wet than a FWD car, so long as you don't treat the throttle like an on/off switch and understand weight transfer. I do get how novices can easily get into a lot of trouble in fast RWD, mostly because nobody ever gets exposure to them any more... everyone learns in safe little FWD hatches these days, and then thinks 4WD is the answer when they want more power. I remember when you could buy MKII Escorts out of the Loot for a few hundred quid and then spend all day hooning on Stretton Airfield, pretending to be Ari Vatanan. Ahh, good times.....

People can peddle a GTI or an S3 in the rain on back roads faster, simply down to confidence. They have no more lateral grip, they have the same tyres, they have the same weight pushing down on them... it's all to do with confidence and experience.

I did a track day recently in the pouring rain, and I'm sure Beddie will testify (as he was there too) mine was a pussy cat, and was easily doing 2:20s - a very respectable time indeed. Likewise my old 135i, that did Spa, Oulton and Rockingham in the rain... I'd say that was a little trickier than the new one though, bit quicker to step out.

I can't wait to see the episode, his face should be a picture!!

Evidence of me not dying in RWD.


« Last Edit: January 25, 2014, 01:03:40 pm by tony_danza »
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