Eibach vs H&R

[Shoduchi]

Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.

Do they squeak over bumps?

[Hevoshullu]

Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.

Do they squeak over bumps?

I noticed the same thing. I wouldn't say it's half the coils that are sitting on each other on mine, but a couple at least are even when the car is unloaded. I guess it's not a design fault as a suspension doesn't just compress but also works in the other direction (ie. droop). Also, they don't squeak on mine.

I have my fingers crossed that the my H&R's will settle at least 10mm. 

[rich83]

Yeah that and the fact that half the coils sit on each other.

Do they squeak over bumps?

No

[Hevoshullu]

I took my GTI for a drive on local country lanes to test out my new H&R springs. Having just switched my Sportlines for the H&R the result wasn't quite what I expected. From what I read here I thought the H&R's would be lower and harder than the Sportlines but it was actually the opposite for me. The differences are subtle but noticable, the H&R are definitely the nicer and more compliant spring as far as the initial travel goes. In harder cornering they are properly stiff just like the Sportlines - I guess this is thanks to the progressive design.
I have to say I am impressed how the H&R's handle with Bilstein B8 dampers and Asymmetric 2 tyres. The car now has a lovely suppleness to it (which also means more grip on slightly bumpy roads that we have here in Finland) and the whole chassis/tyre combination has this progressive nature to it when you push the car. I wouldn't say my car lost any feel when switching from Sportlines to H&R's but what I don't like is that after the first 100 miles the H&R's are still sitting noticably higher than my previous Sporlines.. I will measure the exact distance from top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel after a week or so. On the Sportlines it used to be 335mm front and rear (for some reason the rear still looked like it sat higher with those). I have a feeling on the H&R's it is now a whole 10mm higher at least which is really disappointing because that makes a world of difference to how aggressive the car looks.

All in all very happy with how my car feels with H&R springs, B8 dampers and Asymmetric 2 tyres. Still can't wait to get some Michelin PSS under my GTI. Must also add that damn she handles beautifully for an old bird that she is at 8 year's age. : )

[white91]

More travel would equal more suppleness, you have to compromise somewhere

[Hevoshullu]

Just measured the gap from the top of the wheel arch to the center of the wheel after having driven a couple hundred miles on my H&R's. It's 340mm front and back so slightly higher than my previous Sportlines that were 335mm front and back. Can anyone else measure their gap with H&R's just for comparison out of curiosity? My car is a regular mk5 2 door GTI with manual so from the lighter end of scale what the GTI's can be, I suppose. I am also running on Bilstein B8 dampers which might affect the ride height?

[rich83]

Dampers should not effect ride height at all.

[white91]

Fitted sportlines on new oem shocks, the ride is really harsh! Do you think they will bed in?

[flashp]

Fitted sportlines on new oem shocks, the ride is really harsh! Do you think they will bed in?

I don't think they will. They're mismatched and won't change. Well actually they might...when the stiffer shorter spring has punished the damper into an early grave.

My thoughts are buy this equipment as matched sets, whichever you buy. For example, B12 kit has matched spring and damper rates and the valving is engineered to match the combination. They spent a lot money and resource getting it right, I couldn't do better by trawling the forums touting for opinions on combinations.
Same goes for ARB's as well.

[white91]

I know what you're saying but the budget doesn't stretch at the moment! They have actually softened a little, dampers were probably in storage somewhere


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[Dave(tm)]

Watching this thread with interest...I think I want some Eibachs...no, some H&Rs...Oh I don't know...

Dave

[Shoduchi]

Watching this thread with interest...I think I want some Eibachs...no, some H&Rs...Oh I don't know...

Dave

Lower the drivers seat... Load the car with a few people and there's your lowered Ride... Sorted 

That increases fuel consumption.

[Jarre]

I had h&r on my last ed30 and plan on doing the same for my new that I got last week :)

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[monte]

I had H&R springs and standard shocks for about 4 yrs and I personally thought they were one of the best mods I ever did.

They performed great on the road and coped pretty well on track too.

As for the look? The drop was great and I never had any issues with rubbing on the arches. (As long as you do the arch screw delete)


Anyway here are a few pics showing the different wheels I had. All these were with the H&R lowering springs. 





Standard Pescara… 18x7.5J ET51 with 225/40/R18 tyres








Same as above but Powder coated Satin Black… 18x7.5J ET51 with 225/40/R18 tyres








MTM Bimoto Reps… 18x8.5J ET45 with 225/40/R18 tyres









19"Monza's… 19x8J ET45 with 225/35/R19 tyres









19"OZ Ultralegerra's… 19x8J ET45 with 225/35/R19 tyres






19" BBS CKs 19x8J ET44


 

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