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Oli:
--- Quote from: NB07 on October 03, 2009, 08:06:22 pm ---well from an S3 its only 35 brake increase so i dont think 70 for an eddy does sound ridiculous at all its a long time argument that will never end i think! will be good to see how my car stacks up to philys as we were both timid about going for the maps and have gone in different directions but as you say oli its all about how you feel the car not about willy waving :signLOL:
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vRStu:
FWIW Steve's map doesn't appear to be ideal as that graph looks like there is a significant boost spike early on (which gives the greater peak hp figure) and then the car pulls back which could be heard while it was on the dyno.
chungster:
Oettinger remaps is really APR remaps these days.....
PhilMc (Steve)...do you feel that torque hit at 3500rpm when u drive the car on the road??
Its a bit peaky for my liking...but maybe its just the scaling of the dyno plot that makes it look like that!
vRS Carl:
--- Quote from: Oli on October 03, 2009, 08:00:09 pm ---
And reference massaging the figures, don't be silly! All Im saying that most mappers - REVO, APS, Oettinger etc quote around 300BHP on the ED30/S3 engine, which is a 70BHP increase from standard!
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REVO, APR etc also quote a 55bhp for the Skoda vRS/MK5 GTi
But you NEVER get anywhere near that figure with just a Remap alone. End of. I've seen numerous 2.0TFSi's on Rollers (and that's Golf,Leon,Octavia etc) and not one of those at stage 1 has ever made the quoted figure that the tuning companies state. The map's i have seen run are Bluefin,REVO & APR
You will usually get the Torque but i have never seen anyone get the stated claim for stage 1.
I have seen a 2.0TFSi get 266bhp on Stage 1 BUT it had virtually all the same mods i have with Stage 2+
I'm not trying to cause an argument/bunfight but unless i see those figures reached on a reliable RR (i.e. the likes of JKM) then i will stick my neck out and say they aren't possible with a JUST a remap
Carl :happy2:
Phil Mcavity:
--- Quote from: vRStu on October 03, 2009, 08:46:28 pm ---FWIW Steve's map doesn't appear to be ideal as that graph looks like there is a significant boost spike early on (which gives the greater peak hp figure) and then the car pulls back which could be heard while it was on the dyno.
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To be fair, it pulled a higher bhp figure on its 1st run, then went back to its previous RR figures to 277 with a much lower curve with peak torque below 300Ilb ft.
I am gonna run it past Superchips to see if they'll look into it, but how much do you get for only paying £185 for one of their handsets.
Ill find out monday if they dont hang up :smiley:.
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--- Quote from: vRStu on October 03, 2009, 07:08:15 pm ---
--- Quote from: Oli on October 03, 2009, 06:35:24 pm ---Stage one remaps on these engines usually add approx 70bhp, so regardless of the rollers, what did yours make standard? Mine made 312Bhp using Vagcom, looking forward to getting it on SRR as they are very accurate.
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If you want to see that sort of figure from stage 1 then either stick to SuperChips rollers or ask Charlie at SRR to massage your figures before he runs your car.
What makes you think you'll see +70hp from stage 1?
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And Phil thanks for posting up your before figures.
When is stage 2 happening :happy2:
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I Think with the cars manners on the road now, i think its the point when if you want more , you'll have to add alot more to make the car able to feel it can cope with all the extra oomphh.
Im gonna be plowing my remaining funds into Greenouses Alloys, and that will be that for me.
I dont wanna spend on Brakes, Intercoolers, down pipe/Cat etc to make Stage2 a big leap. From what ive see from other cars , theres little benefit to make it viable for getting on to 300bhp from a front wheel drive car, without SERIOUS money being spent.
Ive done what i never thought id be able to spend some of my hard earned TBH, now its time to treat the person and my kids the rest of my hard earned on them..........
Oh and to Pay for a course on "How to understand Photoshop" :wink:
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