Stage 1 DSG manual mode kick down

[Simmo]

Does anyone know if the DSG box (standard - no DSG map) will kick down in manual mode if the torque is too high?

[rich83]

Too high for what? Kick down will always work unless you have the DSG mapped

[Simmo]

Too high for what? Kick down will always work unless you have the DSG mapped

So if you've had your engine mapped and its producing way more torque than it did standard, the DSG box will still [try to] save the clutches etc in manual mode

[rich83]

No. It will still kick down to the lowest gear

[Simmo]

Great cheers

[_Dejan_]

In M mode it will kick down only if you will press kickdown switch(full acceleration pedal) If you will press acceleration pedal and stop it before you press switch then it will full acelerate but without kickdown... You will need little practice to do this...
With remap in Manual you get "semi-manual": no kickdown and no upshift, but it stil downshift when rpm are to low(Protect to kill engine)...

[Simmo]

In M mode it will kick down only if you will press kickdown switch(full acceleration pedal) If you will press acceleration pedal and stop it before you press switch then it will full acelerate but without kickdown... You will need little practice to do this...
With remap in Manual you get "semi-manual": no kickdown and no upshift, but it stil downshift when rpm are to low(Protect to kill engine)...

So essentially in manual mode, if you give it near on full throttle at say 3k (max torque) but not quite enough to activate the kick down; you could end up overloading the DSG?

[rich83]

Overloading?

[_Dejan_]

In M mode it will kick down only if you will press kickdown switch(full acceleration pedal) If you will press acceleration pedal and stop it before you press switch then it will full acelerate but without kickdown... You will need little practice to do this...
With remap in Manual you get "semi-manual": no kickdown and no upshift, but it stil downshift when rpm are to low(Protect to kill engine)...

So essentially in manual mode, if you give it near on full throttle at say 3k (max torque) but not quite enough to activate the kick down; you could end up overloading the DSG?

You can't overload DSG. DSG have torque limit and you can't reach it. You can put in manual drive ar 1000rpm and full acelerate(pedal press untill you feel button) and it will full acelerate without kickdown. BUT if your engine would start producing more torque as DSG limit wil DSG computer slow down ECU...
If you have ECU remaped then in ECU you can have removed checking DSG limit but DSG will still not produce more than 330-360Nm... When you do DSG remap then you can produce 400Nm or more. Im talking for K03 engine...

I hope that you understand what I wan't to tell you... No mather how you press pedal or remap ECU your DSG will not allow more torque as limited until you remap DSG... Also after remap DSG and BigTurbo installation you will probably not damage DSG and you will destroy your rods and pistons before DSG...

[Simmo]

Thanks both good explanations.

I guess what I'm getting at is, now my car is kicking out 330ftlb; if I boot it in manual mode from 3k, it won't wear the clutches/DSG out any quicker than it would if it was in Drive/Sport mode.

I remember someon saying a while ago to make sure to drop it a gear in manual mode once I'd gone Stage 1 if accelerating hard from say 60 but I had completely forgotten why.

[rich83]

DSG clutch packs are fine for way more power than that! You will be fine!

[Simmo]

Cheers, I remember having the discussion around DSG limits when I had the car mapped but never asked about manual mode implications.

So nice one 

[_Dejan_]

Cheers, I remember having the discussion around DSG limits when I had the car mapped but never asked about manual mode implications.

So nice one 

Original DSG hardware can hold much more power/torque as Original Manual transmission/clutch... But to disable limit on DSG you must remap it...

[Itsagthing]

I have 480flbt on mapped dsg and it handles it fine!!

[Simmo]

I have 480flbt on mapped dsg and it handles it fine!!

Bl00dy hell what turbo are you running?!