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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2014, 08:29:11 pm »
It is very bizarre but I also feel for the families that don't know where there loved ones are  :sad1:

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2014, 08:33:08 pm »
I'm sure all planes are designed to be able to make a landing on water, despite the chances of it actually doing so being very very slim.
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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2014, 08:34:55 pm »
It is very bizarre but I also feel for the families that don't know where there loved ones are  :sad1:

Yeah I'm with you there. Can't imagine what they're going through, just not knowing at all

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2014, 08:35:13 pm »
Sure pilots like Dave will do loads of flight sim training for strange landings like that

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2014, 08:38:15 pm »
Lets say that the comms/nav went down.. why didnt the pilot turn back to land? There no way he would just keep flying and then make an emergency landing on water.

So either the pilots went mad and binned it... or it was hijacked and the hijackers binned it.

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2014, 08:48:28 pm »
This is also puzzling me, some great theories there guys but in all honesty I can't see how a plane so big can just disappear nor how 2 people now days can get through security with fake passports?? With all the security how can this happen. The only theory is there's an inside party??? I just hope for the sake of all the families it's found with everyone safe!

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2014, 08:53:17 pm »
They give you a life raft, they give you a safety card with ditching instructions but the chances of surviving a ditching and the aircraft being in one piece are practically NIL, Mr sully got it very very right on the Hudson and he was very very lucky that the wind was blowing in the right direction, we get "The sully" every year in the sim - if Im lucky i get it near the hudson

Indian ocean, middle of a moonless night, Hypoxic Crew, HUGE aircraft (Much bigger than the A320 on the hudson) pretty but useless cabin crew....

Oh and sharks - did I mention sharks....

Its a very great shame but theyre all dead

If it was hijacked then it may have been the Flight Crew themselves, they may have been shot down, the Singaporean Air Force does not F**k about, theyve got Typhoons out of Changi that we're going all night last time I was there.....

People think all air carriers are safe - that part of the world is full of air carriers that should not be operating, they have major cultural differences that dont welcome the positive influence of expat western crew, same in China, Same in India, Same in Korea, Japan........they have huge cockpit gradients between captains and first officers which western airlines identified as a problem in the 70's and sorted out - pacific rim / eastern airlines not so

Korean air put one on its roof once a year! I could rattle off 10 carriers I would not fly on in a heartbeat

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2014, 08:59:20 pm »
They give you a life raft, they give you a safety card with ditching instructions but the chances of surviving a ditching and the aircraft being in one piece are practically NIL, Mr sully got it very very right on the Hudson and he was very very lucky that the wind was blowing in the right direction, we get "The sully" every year in the sim - if Im lucky i get it near the hudson

Indian ocean, middle of a moonless night, Hypoxic Crew, HUGE aircraft (Much bigger than the A320 on the hudson) pretty but useless cabin crew....

Oh and sharks - did I mention sharks....

Its a very great shame but theyre all dead

If it was hijacked then it may have been the Flight Crew themselves, they may have been shot down, the Singaporean Air Force does not F**k about, theyve got Typhoons out of Changi that we're going all night last time I was there.....

People think all air carriers are safe - that part of the world is full of air carriers that should not be operating, they have major cultural differences that dont welcome the positive influence of expat western crew, same in China, Same in India, Same in Korea, Japan........they have huge cockpit gradients between captains and first officers which western airlines identified as a problem in the 70's and sorted out - pacific rim / eastern airlines not so

Korean air put one on its roof once a year! I could rattle off 10 carriers I would not fly on in a heartbeat

Shame!



If they are hypoxic , why would it do a uturn ?   Then turn at way points. Would that be auto pilot

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2014, 09:00:03 pm »
Dave are you a flight commander? Very interesting info there mate.

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2014, 09:01:01 pm »
Also if the worst and they are all dead why does know body know about it? Covered up?

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2014, 09:01:40 pm »
Lets say that the comms/nav went down.. why didnt the pilot turn back to land? There no way he would just keep flying and then make an emergency landing on water.

So either the pilots went mad and binned it... or it was hijacked and the hijackers binned it.

There is a theory that the aircraft did turn back then headed west, we can Squark certain codes to ATC to let them know whats going "75" still alive (Hijack) "76" in a fix (Radio failure) "77" going to heaven (Imminent danger of death), we have two/three transponders each on its own "circuit" each circuit separate from the other driven by its own engine generator, T7 is fly by wire as well so its got MEGA redundancy in terms of systems, theyre also ETOPS designed (extended twin engined operations) or ( engines turn or passengers swim) so it can stay up there for 211 minutes and keep everybody alive ON ONE ENGINE....

To lose everything is interference, its just impossible to turn the lights out unless you want to

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2014, 09:03:56 pm »
I could rattle off 10 carriers I would not fly on in a heartbeat



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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2014, 09:07:03 pm »
Hijacker waits for First Officer to take a piss, pulls 3D printed gun from undies, threatens FO to gain access to pointy bit.......

Hijacker....."Whos in charge here"

Captain...."I am" - Captain gets shot in the head

Hijacker....."Whos in charge here" to FO

FO ......"You are!"

"Take me to [{ insert sh*thole lawless country here}]"

FO......"OK"

into Nav computer....DCT  [{ insert sh*thole lawless country here}].....aircraft turns - it'll figure out its short on fuel and tell you but Hijacker doesnt know any better


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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2014, 09:08:07 pm »
Dave then on that basis hijacking is the only answer? And death?

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Re: Missing plane ........... Any ideas
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2014, 09:09:46 pm »
the maintenance on some of the domestic carriers in countries like China/Russia/India etc are shocking, I've worked on a few planes from these places and how they got off the ground I don't know, never mind landed safely. We had a 4 year old Chinese Bae 146 in and it was a right off and scrapped it was in such a state  :scared: