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Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« on: May 14, 2014, 05:15:43 pm »
I know this topic has been spoken about before. And I've found some useful advice on what all ill need..
But there is just one unanswered question I need to know urgently..
The standard K03 went on my GTi and I want to upgrade to the K04 from the Audi S3 8p but money is very tight for me at the moment and now I'm stuck without my car.. so the question I need answering to is what is the requirements i need just to fit the K04 onto my car just to get it running? I know it won't perform with full potential but I just really need it running.. all other parts ill get as time goes on to get the full potential out of it.. and I don't want to spend money on buying another K03 just to spend more money buying the K04 later..
Plus I can get a brand new genuine K04 for a great price now

Please please please guys, all help is greatly appreciated
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 05:46:56 pm »
You'll need a new map for the k04 as using a k03 map with a k04 will lead to over boost problems.

btw what price can you get the k04 for?
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 05:55:22 pm »
Whatever you do, don't fit the turbo and injectors then drive round like a loon. You will do some damage!

If you are going to upgrade you need the whole suite of parts in one (these are listed fully in other threads)

Example of what's required:

- K04 turbo
- discharge pipes
- DV relocation pipes
- s3 injectors
- gaskets

If I was in your situation I'd buy a K03 and save up for the k04 bits. You can get a a k04 later and sell the K03 then.

It's just not worth trying to half-ar5e it  :happy2:
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 08:16:17 pm »
S3 injectors, K04 turbo, dv relocation kit and a remap from someone like RTEC and you will be knocking on the door of 300Hp for around £1000-1500 depending on how wel you can bargain hunt.

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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2014, 07:34:50 am »
Will you also need an upgraded FMIC? I have my old S3 OEM FMIC for sale if you are interested.

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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2014, 08:11:43 am »
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2014, 09:27:04 am »
I do want to go the full 9 yards to do it properly its just that I can only do it in stages and I need my car running lol

The price I got quoted on was R12500 (remember I'm from South Africa lol) and local agents want over R30000..
So I think the price i got isn't bad..

Local tuning company told me the K04 will fit straight onto my car with no mods to make it work and all I'll need is the S3 oil feed pipe, dv relocation and software? Then the car can run again? He didn't say that I need tp do injectors or anything else immediately?

What's your guys opinions on that? And i already have a 76mm dp,  so will it just bolt onto the K04?
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2014, 11:36:35 am »
Yup, you don't need s3 injectors or an uprated  hpfp to run the k04 on your car but you'll be limited to around 280 hp.
Can I suggest you PM Jake aka danishmkvgti as I recall he did this upgrade on his wife's car.
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2014, 11:40:17 am »
ok, I just noticed you only have 8 posts. You need at least 10 to enable the PM function so add a couple of post and you'll be good to go.
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2014, 02:44:56 pm »
you  can get by with K04, DV relocation and run it like that, it won't harm the engine, but ideally you'll want the S3 injectors as well and a map.

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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2014, 04:52:51 pm »
So K04 plus manifold, S3 oil feed pipe for turbo, S3 dv relocation kit and software?

Is there anything else I'll need so long just to make it run? Any other pipes/brackects etc etc? Dont want to go get the above mentioned and tgenfind out tthat this doesn't work or I'll still need that. Want to get everything one time so I cam get it running atleast..
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2014, 09:12:32 pm »
You don't need any oil lines, the K04 turbo uses the K03 lines. Get new crush washers for the oil and water connections.
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2014, 11:14:54 pm »
Can anyone please give me the part numbrs for the relocation kit?
I got the wiring harness worked out already. Its just the other patts I need that I'm not sure of as I can't find a direct answer for the part numbers..

I saw on another fourm that I need a noise pipe? I googled it and it doesn't look like my car has that on it.. is this nessasary?
And also a S3 intake pipe as I'm running my stock airfilter box?
And also the S3 pressure pipe?

Thank you guys so very very very
All the help and advice is greatly appreciated




 
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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2014, 11:23:26 pm »
These are what's needed for a full build.

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Re: Golf 5 GTi K04 upgrade help needed
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2014, 09:45:43 am »
Can anyone please give me the part numbrs for the relocation kit?
I got the wiring harness worked out already. Its just the other patts I need that I'm not sure of as I can't find a direct answer for the part numbers..

I saw on another fourm that I need a noise pipe? I googled it and it doesn't look like my car has that on it.. is this nessasary?
And also a S3 intake pipe as I'm running my stock airfilter box?
And also the S3 pressure pipe?

Thank you guys so very very very
All the help and advice is greatly appreciated

Noise pipe is for the LHD cars :)




 

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