VWR exhaust vs Blueflame

[RobsCupra]

For turbo back I would say the blueflame is best on the motorway at crusing speeds but is the loudest when pushing on.

*COUGH Eurojet COUGH*

 

I've also been looking at eurojet exhausts but info on the exhaust is scarce and couldn't find anyone who sells/fits it.  How does it sound compared to the blueflame? Any drone? How much does it cost?

Speak to JBS, thats where I got mine from.

At 70ish there is no drone at all and its barley louder than stock (just a little deeper) but sounds awesome when pressing on. Quality is top notch too, much better than the equivilent milly and IMO better even than APR.

Cost wise, I paid £1k fitted in Jan this year, but exchange rates against the dollar will play a big part in this.

Where abouts in the world are you?

Near the wonderful world of Cannock!  Do you have any pics of the exhaust? Or sound clips?

Well if you fancy a ride out one day I live in wrexham so about an hour and a bit from cannock if you do the M54 and A5 route and I'll be more than happy to take you out for a day around our lovely roads!

No sound clips as they really don't ever sound anything like the real thing but here's a link to the freshly fitted pics.

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2335240&postcount=16

[stiggy]

Hi all,

Thought i'd give a small update.  Planning to have the exhaust fitted sometime this month/early next month.  I rang blueflame earlier this week - it seems they now supply to Awesome and for me to have a blueflame fitted, i'd have to speak to Awesome.  I was originally set on going with blueflame because of the deal they had for forum members, but it seems as though they're at the original price now through Awesome (£1080).  So, this has thrown a spanner in the works - may go with just the catback and save the rest for suspension mods.  Still not 100% decided

I'm planning to do chassis mods before I do anything to the engine (i.e. remap, CAI etc) as I want the car to be "ready" for the extra power.  Powerwise, i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max, which is what i believe a stage 1 remap delivers.  So, I have been advised to go for the catback only.  What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

[BMX]

Hi all,

Thought i'd give a small update.  Planning to have the exhaust fitted sometime this month/early next month.  I rang blueflame earlier this week - it seems they now supply to Awesome and for me to have a blueflame fitted, i'd have to speak to Awesome.  I was originally set on going with blueflame because of the deal they had for forum members, but it seems as though they're at the original price now through Awesome (£1080).  So, this has thrown a spanner in the works - may go with just the catback and save the rest for suspension mods.  Still not 100% decided

I'm planning to do chassis mods before I do anything to the engine (i.e. remap, CAI etc) as I want the car to be "ready" for the extra power.  Powerwise, i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max, which is what i believe a stage 1 remap delivers.  So, I have been advised to go for the catback only.  What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

as far as i can gather a cat back will do SFA, a turbo back will give you a few more horses, but you get the most from the hardware mods by having the map tweeked to suit them ie stage 2 map.

http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/power/blueflame-exhaust-system/volkswagen/golf-mk5.html

good price for the blue flame stuff here and fit it yourself or get a local garage to do it, its not rocket science fitting the system 

[RedRobin]

^^^ The VWR/Milltek has a slight smaller back box and different tailpipes.  

Bring on the Boom!  

....My Milltek has the smaller back box with even less stuffing inside it than the VWR version. I don't get any boom but I don't like a quiet exhaust at any time, motorway or otherwise. But mine's not over noisey anyway. If I hold exactly the same revs, say around 3,000, then of course the sound is constant but that's not boom - I never ever use Cruise anyway.

Sound is extremely subjective - We individually hear different frequencies anyway. Some will prefer the sound of the Blueflame and others will prefer the sound of the Milltek. If I had to describe the difference between them I'd suggest that the Milltek sounds more sophisticated than the Blueflame or APR which both sound slightly more raucous and sporty. Nathan's Milltek through the tunnels of Brussels sounds pretty sporty though!

[RedRobin]

 What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need....  

....You need to think further ahead if possible. If you decide to go beyond Stage1 in the future and/or get a high-flow tubular air intake, you'll want a turboback to get the most out of it all.

Beware the slippery slope of modding!!

HTH  

P.S.- And yes, VWR exhausts are custom-made for them by Milltek who also sponsor the VW Cup.

[keith]

Hi all,

Thought i'd give a small update.  Planning to have the exhaust fitted sometime this month/early next month.  I rang blueflame earlier this week - it seems they now supply to Awesome and for me to have a blueflame fitted, i'd have to speak to Awesome.  I was originally set on going with blueflame because of the deal they had for forum members, but it seems as though they're at the original price now through Awesome (£1080).  So, this has thrown a spanner in the works - may go with just the catback and save the rest for suspension mods.  Still not 100% decided

I'm planning to do chassis mods before I do anything to the engine (i.e. remap, CAI etc) as I want the car to be "ready" for the extra power.  Powerwise, i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max, which is what i believe a stage 1 remap delivers.  So, I have been advised to go for the catback only.  What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

I think its called the  awesome tax.
Remus also do a TBE but its dear.

[stiggy]

Hi all,

Thought i'd give a small update.  Planning to have the exhaust fitted sometime this month/early next month.  I rang blueflame earlier this week - it seems they now supply to Awesome and for me to have a blueflame fitted, i'd have to speak to Awesome.  I was originally set on going with blueflame because of the deal they had for forum members, but it seems as though they're at the original price now through Awesome (£1080).  So, this has thrown a spanner in the works - may go with just the catback and save the rest for suspension mods.  Still not 100% decided

I'm planning to do chassis mods before I do anything to the engine (i.e. remap, CAI etc) as I want the car to be "ready" for the extra power.  Powerwise, i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max, which is what i believe a stage 1 remap delivers.  So, I have been advised to go for the catback only.  What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

as far as i can gather a cat back will do SFA, a turbo back will give you a few more horses, but you get the most from the hardware mods by having the map tweeked to suit them ie stage 2 map.

http://www.dcperformance.co.uk/power/blueflame-exhaust-system/volkswagen/golf-mk5.html

good price for the blue flame stuff here and fit it yourself or get a local garage to do it, its not rocket science fitting the system 

Thanks for the link - looks like i'm back on track with that price   Where is this company based?

[stiggy]

 What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

....You need to think further ahead if possible. If you decide to go beyond Stage1 in the future and/or get a high-flow tubular air intake, you'll want a turboback to get the most out of it all.

Beware the slippery slope of modding!!

HTH 

P.S.- And yes, VWR exhausts are custom-made for them by Milltek who also sponsor the VW Cup.

Yes, I am well aware of this slippery slope everyone mentions and i'm hoping not to slip too far down it   I'm planning to stay with the mentioned mods because i'm going to keep the car long term (especially after learning the price of a new Golf R).  As it's being driven on a daily basis, I still want something reliable.  I just thought that having a full, low resistance exhaust would allow the exhaust gases to flow more freely and that would be a good setup for the engine in the long run especially once it's remapped (to stage 1). At the same time, just incase i decide to do further mods to the car it's nice to know i'll have a car better prepared for it....

Will there be any problems/issues that i'll need to look out for if I decided on turboback + stage 1 (+ CAI + intercooler)?

[stiggy]

I think its called the  awesome tax.
Remus also do a TBE but its dear.

Not as bad as what Oettinger are charging for a full exhaust - that'll be £5000 sir

[SteveP]

Yes, I am well aware of this slippery slope everyone mentions and i'm hoping not to slip too far down it   I'm planning to stay with the mentioned mods because i'm going to keep the car long term (especially after learning the price of a new Golf R).  As it's being driven on a daily basis, I still want something reliable.  I just thought that having a full, low resistance exhaust would allow the exhaust gases to flow more freely and that would be a good setup for the engine in the long run especially once it's remapped (to stage 1). At the same time, just incase i decide to do further mods to the car it's nice to know i'll have a car better prepared for it....

Will there be any problems/issues that i'll need to look out for if I decided on turboback + stage 1 (+ CAI + intercooler)?

If your running those hardware mods you would ideally have the stage 2 code. The only issue you might get in that config is the engine management light might come on after a bit of driving with the TBE as the exhaust gas sensor will trigger.

It won't do any harm running like but you will probably find the stage 2 code much more rewarding anyway 

[Poverty]

like steve p has said, get the stage 2 plus code. Then all you need is a pump and you can go out slaying porsches lol. 

[Janner_Sy]

makes me chuckle when i read things like "i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max", that wont last long mate, you can guarantee that.

reading through this post you seem to have disregarded the option of just having a performance downpipe and Cat mated to the std cat back.

a turbo back you get the best of both worlds, CAT back you'll only realy get the sound factor plus a minimal increase.

with the DP you will have a deeper burble, and the performance increase for a stage 2 setup, which you might as well get as with the mods you are talking about. ( if you dont get the cat back you could get some HPFP internals instead and have change and a truly fast car)

[RedRobin]

like steve p has said, get the stage 2 plus code. Then all you need is a pump and you can go out slaying porsches lol. 

....I think that SteveP said : -

If your running those hardware mods you would ideally have the stage 2 code. ...

It won't do any harm running like but you will probably find the stage 2 code much more rewarding anyway 

....Stage 2 code and not Stage 2 plus code.

Not only is it more rewarding to experience each stage one at a time but if there are any problems it's usually easier/simpler to diagnose them. Plus if budget is a consideration it's cheaper one step at a time.

[Snoopy]

Be interesting to know if these sports cats meet the oem standard type, type approval as all replacment cats fitted to cars made from 2001 must do.
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2009/em/uksiem_20091899_en.pdf

[AwesomeSarah]

Hi all,

Thought i'd give a small update.  Planning to have the exhaust fitted sometime this month/early next month.  I rang blueflame earlier this week - it seems they now supply to Awesome and for me to have a blueflame fitted, i'd have to speak to Awesome.  I was originally set on going with blueflame because of the deal they had for forum members, but it seems as though they're at the original price now through Awesome (£1080).  So, this has thrown a spanner in the works - may go with just the catback and save the rest for suspension mods.  Still not 100% decided

I'm planning to do chassis mods before I do anything to the engine (i.e. remap, CAI etc) as I want the car to be "ready" for the extra power.  Powerwise, i'm looking for around 300/310bhp max, which is what i believe a stage 1 remap delivers.  So, I have been advised to go for the catback only.  What advantages, if any, will there be if i went for a turboback with stage 1 over a catback?  Would I be wasting my money if i went for a turboback + stage 1?

Any advice would be great......please help a man in need.... 

I think its called the  awesome tax.
Remus also do a TBE but its dear.

Hi
Yes we are Blueflame dealers now
This is because we like to deal with more than 1 of each suppliers
That means we can sell more than 1 make of exhausts
Blueflame we are doing 10% off their retail , so I can`t see how this is the usual Awesome tax you call it????
We are discount the pricings to start with 
I would have thought if it was to be an Awesome tax , then we would charge more than the retail????
Sarah