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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2009, 09:05:47 pm »
Are the US-spec cars geared differently?

I think we better wait for 1FASTMF to answer that one   :wink:
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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2009, 10:04:22 pm »
slightly OT but i'm curious...

how the heck do u work out the MPH using RPM / gear ratios?

have done a big googling but i'm still confused!

seems to involve tyre diameter and maybe the number 336?? 


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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #32 on: October 23, 2009, 09:06:06 am »
it is strange how the apr video doesnt start at 0 mph...

maybe the mph needle on the clock has been brought forward a bit ? :evilgrin:

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #33 on: October 23, 2009, 01:50:12 pm »
This should get interesting  :popcornsoda:
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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2009, 03:01:50 pm »
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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2009, 03:42:08 pm »
Just tried a 3rd gear pull in my car.  The results are as follows

2005 GTI

AXX engine

Manual GVT gearbox

At 60mph = 4500 rpm

At 5000 rpm = 66-67mph

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #36 on: October 23, 2009, 03:56:21 pm »
Heres mine in 3rd if its any help



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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #37 on: October 23, 2009, 03:57:36 pm »
Heres mine in 3rd if its any help




Well yeah, again 5k revs and 60 mph..  :happy2:
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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #38 on: October 23, 2009, 03:58:05 pm »
sure thats not 4th coz 100mph in 3rd is a bit mental.

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #39 on: October 23, 2009, 03:58:25 pm »
Heres mine in 3rd if its any help




Well yeah, again 5k revs and 60 mph..  :happy2:

its actually doing 80 mph at 5k man... look again

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #40 on: October 23, 2009, 03:59:17 pm »
sure thats not 4th coz 100mph in 3rd is a bit mental.

good point... more testing tonight  :grin:

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #41 on: October 23, 2009, 04:04:02 pm »
I assume at some point I will have to resign myself to the fact that I have to take this ridiculous claim seriously.

For the time being, I will explain how the video was captured and what the build state of the car was during the video and development of the engine.

The car is a 2006 MK5 GTi press car that is an auxiliary chassis for APR Motorsport.  The chassis is completely OEM and was one of the first MK5's ever made with an incredibly low VIN that technically doesn't exist.  APR MS uses it to dyno test their spare engines.  The car has the OEM transmission, suspension, brakes, instruments, interior, etc and the OEM 17" wheels and tires.

Our client in Dubai sent his ecu, keys, ignition cylinder, instrument cluster, wiring harness and central convenience monitor as his race car was EURO spec and we wanted to make sure all would work for him once he received the engine we were sending.  Some or most of those bits were swapped into our US Spec chassis for the calibration, video and testing.

The car is being driven on a relatively straight piece of road that has some hills and valleys and would be considered rather "hilly".

The camera is mounted from the sunroof and I believe there is a second person in the car for some of the pulls holding a camera for a different angle that may or may not have been used for the vid.

It was not our intent for other people to measure the time of acceleration or whatever but we assumed people would.  We didn't do it ourselves because we don't really care as we have nothing to compare it to and other results are more important to us than the time of acceleration.  Performance Box data would have been helpful though and I do that now for most cars when we finish new development.

That being said, this thread is a complete waste of my time and I am not going to fall prey to these baseless attempts to discredit us.

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« Last Edit: October 23, 2009, 04:12:22 pm by Keith@APR »

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2009, 04:07:41 pm »
Interesting,  :popcornsoda:

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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2009, 04:10:13 pm »

its actually doing 80 mph at 5k man... look again

Sorry, my mistake.. BUT!

If you compare 6000 rpm in 4th to the APR car..

Yours is at 97mph at 7 seconds into the video..

The APR car is at 110mph at 34 seconds into the vid..

Still a huge difference..
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Re: Very interesting - APR care to explain?
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2009, 04:11:07 pm »
Did I hear the sound of a car being crated up for the States...?

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