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What front brake upgrades are you running?

Upgraded discs/pads (groved/cross-drilled with matching pads)
18 (14.9%)
Larger OEM R32/R20/S3/Cupra
47 (38.8%)
4 pot calipers
36 (29.8%)
6 pot calipers
10 (8.3%)
Beyond dreams (e.g. Lambo/R8 brakes)
10 (8.3%)

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2014, 04:04:04 pm »
Really simple question,

I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?
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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #46 on: July 04, 2014, 04:44:20 pm »
There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.

AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under  :happy2:

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #47 on: July 04, 2014, 04:48:54 pm »
Really simple question,

I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #48 on: July 04, 2014, 04:56:05 pm »
Really simple question,

I just want to confirm before i go ahead and fit my new brakes. My 6 GTI which has 312mm, I have just bought a set of R32 front brake set up, is it just a straight disk and caliper swap, no different bracket needed?

Did with me. :happy2:

Not sure about that... caliper carrier and disc are larger in the r32

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #49 on: July 04, 2014, 09:03:42 pm »
can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks
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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2014, 09:13:43 pm »
can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks

You need calipers, caliperbrackets, discs, pads, brakelines and braketubes (sits on the caliper itself) to fit them to your mk 6 GTI with 312mm brakesetup, period  :happy2:

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2014, 09:31:16 pm »
There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.

AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under  :happy2:

Thanks for clearing that up fella!  :happy2:
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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2014, 10:26:56 pm »
can someone clear it up please, need to know if its the same bracket. Thanks

R32 brake disc is 345mm and thicker than GTi brake disc which is 312mm.

Carrier is larger to hold the much larger R32 brake caliper.  Part numbers are also different which suggests they are different.

You also need to change the brake lines, pads etc.

Here's an image I found as a comparison for the carriers...


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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2014, 10:59:47 pm »
Ok thanks for clearing that up, I kinda thought that was classed as part of the caliper ( I a noob when it comes to brakes), Well i think I should be fine as this is the set ive got and it looks like the carries are pre-attached to the calipers.





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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2014, 09:57:16 am »
Ok thanks for clearing that up, I kinda thought that was classed as part of the caliper ( I a noob when it comes to brakes), Well i think I should be fine as this is the set ive got and it looks like the carries are pre-attached to the calipers.







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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2014, 09:58:38 am »
If you're doing this yourself, then make sure you pay attension to how your stock calipers come off. Your new 345mm setup bolts back on the same way.

I didn't pay attention and bolted the calipers on the wrong way round! Make sure the bleed nipple is at the top of the caliper.

Are dust shield an MOT requirement? How would people with 4/6 piston calipers pass then?

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2014, 10:16:21 am »
Not doing it my self now and i could do with a full brake fluid change. I thought with these you just bend the GTI dust shields backwards a bit. People said no pint buying R32 unless your really fussy, this true?
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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2014, 10:39:11 am »
There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.

AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under  :happy2:

Thanks for clearing that up fella!  :happy2:

AP 4 pot will fit behind a standard Monza - this was one of the reasons I bought them  :happy2:



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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2014, 11:14:11 am »
Dust shields and new brake lines, do it properly... Not expensive. Can you take a close up of the anti rattle clip? I like the icon!!

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Re: POLL: War of the brakes
« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2014, 11:47:24 am »
If you're doing this yourself, then make sure you pay attension to how your stock CALIPERs come off. Your new 345mm setup bolts back on the same way.

I didn't pay attention and bolted the CALIPERs on the wrong way round! Make sure the bleed nipple is at the top of the caliper.

Are dust shield an MOT requirement? How would people with 4/6 piston CALIPERs pass then?

No dust shields isn't a mot requirement.

There's a few sets of BBK's that fit under the OEM 7.5" ET51, not sure which though I want to say AP 4 Pots. Maybe DaveB will pop along to clarify.

AP 4 pot doesn't fit under OEM 7,5" ET51 without spacers, only ones i know are RS4 B5 356mm setup and Tarox 10 ports 330mm. Unless you chose the Leon Cupra 18" rim, then quite a few BBk fits under  :happy2:

Thanks for clearing that up fella!  :happy2:

AP 4 pot will fit behind a standard Monza - this was one of the reasons I bought them  :happy2:



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What would you guys say these ap 4pots are good for, bhp wise?