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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2014, 06:05:55 pm »
To be totally honest, I probably wont be bothering R-tech with a call, as it wouldnt be fair to just call for the sake of info when I know I wont be spending any money with them.

Reason for the post was curiosity.  Thought someone must have tried it (remap on std BYD engine).

Just to confuddle most of you.  When I'm ready, I'll be dropping a line to our tame engine calibration specialist Toyotec  :P

The name will be familiar to those who have ever posted on the ClubGTI forum or other Jap car tuning forums  :happy2:

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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2014, 06:06:41 pm »
I've never heard Toyotec mentioned on this forum, are they specialists with the TFSI engine?

Having not been recommended on here (nor even mentioned), can they REALLY be as knowledgable as the tuners that have tuned thousands of these cars in various states of tune and tackled many faults they have come across with customers cars?

Also, as knowledge improves, the tuners further hone their maps to exploit exactly what these engines can offer. I doubt someone who hasn't been "messing" with these engines for years can offer this service

My advice (which I'm sure would be echoed by many other forumers) is stick to a tuner which has solid  recommendations on here to make sure you get the best service, for the best price, and who will give you the time of day if there are any problems in future. .

We hear it time and time again on here that someone has gone to xxxx tuner and the car is now having problems. The tuners present on the forum will always help you out and offer support if you have gone to them.

An example of this is viezu who GarethB went to for a map. The car performed badly on the road, and a Dyno session showed a poor performance. He switched to Revo and instantly the car ran better. . .


Anyway, that's probably the best advice this forum can give in this situation.

Good luck with which ever way you go  :drinking:



I have never heard of them lol



But my car had a remap on already (done by evotune in Durham) and tbf it was a really good map


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BUT I have to admit I was worried that the map may not have been perfect for the car with them not being VAG specialists.
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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2014, 07:26:21 pm »
To be totally honest, I probably wont be bothering R-tech with a call, as it wouldnt be fair to just call for the sake of info when I know I wont be spending any money with them.

Reason for the post was curiosity.  Thought someone must have tried it (remap on std BYD engine).

Just to confuddle most of you.  When I'm ready, I'll be dropping a line to our tame engine calibration specialist Toyotec  :P

The name will be familiar to those who have ever posted on the ClubGTI forum or other Jap car tuning forums  :happy2:

Who are they! :confused:

In 7 years I've owned Mk5 GTi's, I've never heard of them on this forum, considering this is the Best forum for the car on the internet, I certainly wouldn't entertain a remap from an Unknown.

Just google RTech Power, and it will be top of the search list..that's how well known they are on ukmkiv,mk5golfgti,and Seat Cupra net..

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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2014, 11:47:18 am »
Coor Blimey! I didnt realise mentioning a different tuner would get people so worried! 

BettyS:  Just to make it clear - I have nothing against Revo, AMD, R-Tech etc.  They all produce results, tried and tested reliable ones.  
All I said was it would not be bothering calling R-tech.  Not because I dont like them... but would it be fair to ring R-tech just for a chat, if I know I'm unlikely to make the drive up there?  It is fair to take up their time unless I was seriously shopping around and then looking to spend my money with the chosen firm?

To clarify, the only reasons I will not be calling/driving up to R-tech:
a) I'm not YET wanting to remap it, hence dont want to waste their time - I'm just curious about potential results...
b) I've a good mate (Toyotec) who I (and many others) have great confidence in, who lives not too far, and hence I will bug him when I'm ready for the work to be done.
c) Using a local person means I can easily return to them when my requirements/hardware changes etc, and I need a slight tweak in the map to accommodate.

Toyotec is an individual (Eddie).  Highly experienced professional.  Calibrates engine maps/drive trains as his day job for a large OEM manufacturer, and also as his passion/hobby.  He has been tinkering with cars longer than I have been alive!  I have a lot of respect for this guy's approach, work and results.  From what I've read, the approach R-tech take is quite similar to Eddie's - in terms of smooth power delivery, tractable power, usable power across the curve - and not peaky/spikey etc.

SaintSteve: Correct - this forum is the most comprehensive for the MK5 Golf GTI.  I love the amount of info available here!  Some serious effort has gone into the site and the cars.  But just because you haven't heard of him, doesn't make him a bad choice.  :happy2:
Being a little cheeky  :wink: - if I google "mk5 golf gti remap" Pistonheads comes up at the top of the list.. followed by AMD.  Doesnt mean they are the best, just means their SEO is working amongst other things.  Googling R-tech power review does flood my screen with positive comments from satisfied customers.  Google toyotec, and nothing relevant comes up lol.

I've not had a chance to catch up with Eddie for a while.  Simply because we are all busy people.  Hence I thought I'd bug the members of this forum for info (which exists here already) before taking up Eddie's precious time.

I appreciate the comments, feedback, concern re: the health (future) of my Ed30  :smiley:  But chill guys, variety is the spice of life! :happy2:
Or was it a girl named Verity?

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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2014, 12:03:11 pm »
I took my GTI to AmD Tuning in Essex and got figures of 265.9 BHP and 305.9 ft/lb torque. All I had fitted was an air filter (not a full intake, just a K&N panel filter), a GFB DV+ replacement diverter valve fitting and a cat-back Miltek exhaust (with R32 rear back box).

My girlfriend took hers to the same place, had virtually the same modifications applied (hers was a Pipercross filter and standard fitting Miltek exhaust) but she got 5 less BHP and 20 less torques. Only reason I could find was the slight difference in engines, mines a BWA whereas hers is a AXX.

In answer to your question of how much power you can expect to gain from just a re-map, if you tell yourself about 20% you'll struggle to be disappointed with any result. Mine saw a 33% increase but I still need to verify it with a second dyno run.

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Re: How far can a custom map take an otherwise bog standard Ed30?
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2014, 07:36:35 pm »
I took my GTI to AmD Tuning in Essex and got figures of 265.9 BHP and 305.9 ft/lb torque. All I had fitted was an air filter (not a full intake, just a K&N panel filter), a GFB DV+ replacement diverter valve fitting and a cat-back Miltek exhaust (with R32 rear back box).

My girlfriend took hers to the same place, had virtually the same modifications applied (hers was a Pipercross filter and standard fitting Miltek exhaust) but she got 5 less BHP and 20 less torques. Only reason I could find was the slight difference in engines, mines a BWA whereas hers is a AXX.

In answer to your question of how much power you can expect to gain from just a re-map, if you tell yourself about 20% you'll struggle to be disappointed with any result. Mine saw a 33% increase but I still need to verify it with a second dyno run.

but she got 5 less BHP and 20 less torques. Only reason I could find was the slight difference in engines, mines a BWA whereas hers is a AXX.

interesting find anyone found the same BWA more power than AXX ?