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Offline Poverty

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Warm starting/cutting out issues
« on: October 25, 2009, 07:48:45 pm »
My car has some intermittent faults. It had these for a while now, and I can symphatise with dealers when it comes to intermittent faults, as its hard to fix something when its working fine infront of you. It had 12 fault codes at the time, however none really related to each other.

Anway car got reflashed and it was fine for a while, but the every now and again it will play up. Like refusing to start when warm, cutting out on idle, or cutting out after a WOT period when slowing down and clutch is depressed. Have had misfires detected on VAG COM, car running like a bag of nails with the engine shaking violently and the exhaust sounding like its blown.

When it refuses to start I have to depress the accelerator to bring the engine to life but even then after revving it for a while it can still die when left to return to idle. Then after it has done that and I physically stop it from dying by just revving it a little, the car will stay running but it will idle at up to 1500rpm and then say half hour later it can go back to normal.

Now I can only presume its either fuel or ignition related. Changed the sparks for some iridium ones but it still refused to start up once after taking it for a drive.

Can coil packs be intermittent?

Car has done 9000 miles, but its been doing it since about 5000.

Oh and I can get a combination of fault lights on the dash, the most frequent being the epc, esp and low tyre pressure light combined, but the car wont always limit the revs with these lights on display, and when the epc light goes away, the other two will remain on and the epc will be disabled until I restart the car.

Think this will probably be a job for Jkm or AMD me thinks.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2009, 08:04:27 pm »
could be maf / coil packs / hole in intake pipework somewhere?

ur car has been tinkered with quite a bit hasn't it???
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 08:27:26 pm »
Quote from: chungster on October 25, 2009, 08:04:27 pm
could be maf / coil packs / hole in intake pipework somewhere?

ur car has been tinkered with quite a bit hasn't it???

It has hpfp internals, blueflame dp, revo stage 2 plus and itg intake.

The car has done it with mods and without any mods though.

Think im gonna change the coil packs unless someone has a good reason why it would be unlikely to be that, just its sorta odd for the coil packs to be intermittent, and surely if it was them one of the pack would have given up ghost by now?
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2009, 08:46:29 pm »
id change them, you've done the plugs, so take the hole spark equation out.

 have you done your PCV. not sure if that could be at fault. If your manifold take off isnt tight it could cause fluctuations etc.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2009, 08:48:08 pm »
I know my car isn't the same (Golf 1.4 FSI MK5) but my car didn't start up from warm sometimes, turned out to be a temperature sender. The problem hasn't occured since. Maybe worth a try.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2009, 08:58:38 pm »
Quote from: simonskerton on October 25, 2009, 08:46:29 pm
id change them, you've done the plugs, so take the hole spark equation out.

 have you done your PCV. not sure if that could be at fault. If your manifold take off isnt tight it could cause fluctuations etc.

pcv catch can? No pcv mods for me so far.


Quote from: Nasir on October 25, 2009, 08:48:08 pm
I know my car isn't the same (Golf 1.4 FSI MK5) but my car didn't start up from warm sometimes, turned out to be a temperature sender. The problem hasn't occured since. Maybe worth a try.

Could be route to look down, tbh if the coil packs dont do it, I think it will be time to let JKM or AMD have a go.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2009, 09:02:37 pm »
Quote from: Poverty on October 25, 2009, 08:58:38 pm
Quote from: simonskerton on October 25, 2009, 08:46:29 pm
have you done your PCV. pcv catch can? No pcv mods for me so far.

I mean your std one could have gone. they are a known weak point. is there someone elses oem Pcv that you could take off temporarily to have a go with maybe. or perhaps get to the catch can mod to elliminate it altogether
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2009, 10:33:18 pm »
Quote from: simonskerton on October 25, 2009, 09:02:37 pm
Quote from: Poverty on October 25, 2009, 08:58:38 pm
Quote from: simonskerton on October 25, 2009, 08:46:29 pm
have you done your PCV. pcv catch can? No pcv mods for me so far.
Quote from: Nasir on October 25, 2009, 08:48:08 pm

I mean your std one could have gone. they are a known weak point. is there someone elses oem Pcv that you could take off temporarily to have a go with maybe. or perhaps get to the catch can mod to elliminate it altogether

Could borrow cuprak1's pcv I suppose. Think I need to read up on pcv symptoms.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 10:21:25 am »
my money is on possibly the cam follower which could of worn out, even more so after the hpfp was done.

What oil do you have again?

I might get the catch can soon so we can swap my PCV onto yours?

have to let me take a look but its always dark wen we meet up lol
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 02:03:16 pm »
first check is get the actual fault codes and do a web search /ross tech wiki.
You may have more than one issue.

I'd always be tempted to suggest flashing back to stock , and even removing modifications to get to a known working state before tuning....

engine shaking etc sounds like coilpacks, can swap between cylinders and see if misfire is in same cylinder or not.

starting sounds like fuel pressure , be it from the low pressure side (in tank pump / filter etc) or high pressure side (rail,injectors,sensors) (you can log this via vagcom , and see how it drops once the engines turned off)

multiple dash lights can often be a sign of low voltage in the entire system, so id want to check your battery voltage under load ...

you couldnt be in better hands than JKM  :happy2:


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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 11:23:30 pm »
Quote from: john_o on October 26, 2009, 02:03:16 pm
first check is get the actual fault codes and do a web search /ross tech wiki.
You may have more than one issue.

I'd always be tempted to suggest flashing back to stock , and even removing modifications to get to a known working state before tuning....

engine shaking etc sounds like coilpacks, can swap between cylinders and see if misfire is in same cylinder or not.

starting sounds like fuel pressure , be it from the low pressure side (in tank pump / filter etc) or high pressure side (rail,injectors,sensors) (you can log this via vagcom , and see how it drops once the engines turned off)

multiple dash lights can often be a sign of low voltage in the entire system, so id want to check your battery voltage under load ...

you couldnt be in better hands than JKM  :happy2:




You seem to know your stuff, as alot of your suggested ideas on the issues correspond with what was flagged up on VAG COM.

The first time I had it VAG COM'd when it was really bad I got 12 fault codes  :confused:

Have got em saved so will post em up tomorrow or so. However had the car scanned about a week ago and nothing of much interest was flagged up, but still need to get DanGB to email them over.

Wayne did dan email you the fault codes at all? Dont think the cam follower is a issue, plus AMD surely would have said something if mine was worn, plus the mileage on mine is a bit low for a worn cam follower, as I was experiencing these issues at about 5-6k in.



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03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door,Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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000545 - Angle Sensor for Throttle (G188): Implausible Signal
               P0221 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
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                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 9034 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 21:15:58

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                    Load: 21.2 %
                    Speed: 77.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 84.0°C
                    Temperature: 34.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

005476 - Throttle Actuator (J338): Under-Voltage during Basic Setting
               P1564 - 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9072 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 22:31:43

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                    Load: 100.0 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 97.0°C
                    Temperature: 55.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 10.668 V

000289 - Throttle Position Sensor (G69): Implausible Signal
               P0121 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9157 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:40:06

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 5046 /min
                    Load: 20.0 %
                    Speed: 65.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 90.0°C
                    Temperature: 27.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.224 V

001287 - Idle Control System RPM: Higher than Expected.
               P0507 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 9159 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 01:42:10

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1428 /min
                    Load: 17.2 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 85.0°C
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000768 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
               P0300 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 9304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:01:42

             Freeze Frame:
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                    Load: 29.0 %
                    Speed: 122.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

000771 - Cylinder 3: Misfire Detected
               P0303 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 9304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:01:42

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 6560 /min
                    Load: 29.0 %
                    Speed: 122.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

000770 - Cylinder 2: Misfire Detected
               P0302 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9304 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 00:01:42

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                    Load: 29.0 %
                    Speed: 122.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 86.0°C
                    Temperature: 39.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 13.970 V

004688 - Fuel Level too Low
               P1250 - 008 - Implausible Signal
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
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                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 20:45:02

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1435 /min
                    Load: 17.2 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 85.0°C
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1020.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.351 V

000313 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Response too Slow
               P0139 - 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9467 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:37:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2999 /min
                    Load: 9.0 %
                    Speed: 55.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 41.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

004372 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S2: Internal Resistance too High
               P1114 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9467 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:37:03

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2964 /min
                    Load: 8.6 %
                    Speed: 55.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 42.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

005445 - Throttle Valve Controller: Malfunction
               P1545 - 001 - Upper Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100001
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Mileage: 9467 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:37:08

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1386 /min
                    Load: 29.8 %
                    Speed: 38.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 45.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

005445 - Throttle Valve Controller: Malfunction
               P1545 - 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Mileage: 9467 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 18:37:09

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 1145 /min
                    Load: 43.1 %
                    Speed: 36.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 83.0°C
                    Temperature: 45.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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2 Faults Found:
02214 - Tire Pressure Warning
            002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 63
                    Mileage: 8389 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 0
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                    Count: 4608
                    Count: 397
                    Count: 50477
                    Count: 3
                    Count: 0
                    Count: 0

01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101101
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 3
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 9034 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                    Count: 16448
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No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-30-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C8 937 049 E    HW: 3C8 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H54 2602 
   Revision: 00H54000    Serial number: 00000005913491
   Coding: 818C0F2F00041000431D00000000000000007F075C400000000000000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

   Part No: 1P0 955 119 B
   Component: Wischer 290708 022  0601 
   Coding: 00056208
   Shop #: WSC 06402 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 5N0-959-655.lbl
   Part No SW: 5N0 959 655 A    HW: 5N0 959 655 A
   Component: J234__A03 VW10 HI   1815 
   Revision: 19013000    Serial number: 0039DPJDFFB. 
   Coding: 0012339
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BS    HW: 1K0 953 549 BS
   Component: J0527           752 0101 
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

   Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: E0221           001 0010

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1P0 920 925 C
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VO3 0424 
   Coding: 0000401
   Shop #: WSC 01108 476 96591

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 Q    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533__Gateway   H16 0202 
   Revision:   H16       Serial number: 2700K0890900DE
   Coding: E9807F060002020203
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.lbl
   Part No: 1P0 920 925 C
   Component: IMMO            VO3 0424 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 701 L    HW: 1K0 959 793 P
   Component: J386  TUER-SG FT    1518 
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000528888531
   Coding: 0004784
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 909 144 C
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 154    2301 
   Revision: 00H15000   
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0204 
   Revision: 00020000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 988000005283CC7F00068F0F60085F86107C80
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

   Part No: 1P0 951 171
   Component: Innenraumueberw.010 4971 
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 06402 

   Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Component:       NGS n.mounted     

1 Fault Found:
01135 - Interior Monitoring Sensors
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 69
                    Reset counter: 82
                    Mileage: 743 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 23:23:43


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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 959 702 L    HW: 1K0 959 792 P
   Component: J387  TUER-SG BT    1518 
   Revision: 71009005    Serial number: 00000756388514
   Coding: 0004784
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1P2 035 186 A
   Component: Radio BVX           0007 
   Coding: 0040424
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door,Rear Left        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AF    HW: 1K0 959 795 S
   Component: J388   TUER-SG HL   1401 
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003366140
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: None
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AF    HW: 1K0 959 794 S
   Component: J389   TUER-SG HR   1401 
   Revision: 11006001    Serial number: 00000003364257
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 06402 785 00200

No fault code found.

End   ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2009, 11:12:44 am »
DAMN, get those logs off to revo mate!  they might be able to help, after all its revo code which could be a contributing factor.

also LOL at most errors at like 1 - 2 in the morning when we are out ;)  :drinking:
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2009, 10:36:25 pm »
Quote from: cuprak1 on October 27, 2009, 11:12:44 am
DAMN, get those logs off to revo mate!  they might be able to help, after all its revo code which could be a contributing factor.

also LOL at most errors at like 1 - 2 in the morning when we are out ;)  :drinking:
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Yeah most of the faults happen when I need the car at its best lol.

Need to get the car scanned again and see what faults its throwing up this time.
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Re: Warm starting/cutting out issues
« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2009, 09:39:37 am »
Quote from: john_o on October 26, 2009, 02:03:16 pm

you couldnt be in better hands than JKM  :happy2:


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