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Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« on: October 27, 2009, 02:44:21 pm »
Hi guys,

Well this is the first week of ownership, I'm looking to continue the work Gadget did to the car, but before I get the credit card out I could do with the input of all that has had any of the modifications I plan done so I know if its worth while, if ppl would suggewst a differnet route...etc...

The mods I plan over the next few weeks are...

1) BSH PCV Stage 2 Fix Catch Can System - Does it really help?! Any gains?!
2) DSG Remap - Going from Hurdy this is a MUST!
3) Milltek Downpipe and Cat with new Map - Power Different I will see?! Sound different?!
4) High Pressure Fuel Pump - Apparently not required till Stage 2+?!

The car at the moment is what APS call there stage 2...Map, Performance Filter, Cat-Back! So realistically, what should I do next?! Stage 3 for APS, would be a new map and the rest of the Exhaust (would this be where i'd require the HPFP?! or is this if I go over this)...

Thanks in advance for all your help...
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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2009, 03:26:41 pm »
1) BSH PCV Stage 2 Fix Catch Can System - Does it really help?! Any gains?!

Will cure the problematic tfsi oem pcv and help keep things cleaner

2) DSG Remap - Going from Hurdy this is a MUST!

If its a dsg car then yes a dsg map :) lol i would recommend REVO

3) Milltek Downpipe and Cat with new Map - Power Different I will see?! Sound different?!

When adding a downpipe and exhaust you usually couple with with a stage 2 map, the sound will defo change with this mod, less backpressure means different grunt


4) High Pressure Fuel Pump - Apparently not required till Stage 2+?!

If you want to take things further then the pump can help push in more fuel at a higher rate in the midrange resulting in more powaaah ! however you will also need a cold air intake, maybe an intercooler upgrade and possibly a new diverter valve.




I havn't heard of APS? do they have any info online about their maps?

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2009, 03:27:45 pm »
Well,

1. Helps stop boost leakage, doesn't add power. Needs emptying regularly.
2. It is a must - get down to Statllers and tell them I sent you :happy2:
3. Milltek/ aftermarket full turbo-back exhaust is a very good option. It helps the engine rev freer and frees up some extra horsies through the whole rev band. If you like a loud zorst, go for non-resonated. If you like it a little quieter, go for a resonated one. If you like, you can pop over to mine and I'll take you for that spin I promised and you can listen to a resonated system and check out the power from the REVO at stage 2+.
4. You will not see much benefit from a HPFP unless you map the car to utilise it. Again Statllers have them in stock at about £300 and £50 fitting.

If you wanted to stick with APS and go stage 3 you would require the HPFP, a full intake and a full turbo-back exhaust to get the most benefit. To keep it all cool you would also be wise to invest in either a THS intercooler or a Forge FMIC. :happy2:

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2009, 03:44:36 pm »
1) BSH PCV Stage 2 Fix Catch Can System - Does it really help?! Any gains?!

Will cure the problematic tfsi oem pcv and help keep things cleaner
PURCHASED  :happy2:

2) DSG Remap - Going from Hurdy this is a MUST!

If its a dsg car then yes a dsg map :) lol i would recommend REVO
This is going to be my first real spend!

3) Milltek Downpipe and Cat with new Map - Power Different I will see?! Sound different?!

When adding a downpipe and exhaust you usually couple with with a stage 2 map, the sound will defo change with this mod, less backpressure means different grunt

Problem I have at the moment is the fact I'll end up spending lots more money haha, if I get the Downpipe + Cat to bolt on to the existing Cat-Back I'll definatly require another map...need to get this RR'd see what is kicking out already ;)

4) High Pressure Fuel Pump - Apparently not required till Stage 2+?!

If you want to take things further then the pump can help push in more fuel at a higher rate in the midrange resulting in more powaaah ! however you will also need a cold air intake, maybe an intercooler upgrade and possibly a new diverter valve.
Sounds like a lot of money involved hahaha


I havn't heard of APS? do they have any info online about their maps?

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2009, 03:48:57 pm »
Well,

1. Helps stop boost leakage, doesn't add power. Needs emptying regularly.
PURCHASED :)
2. It is a must - get down to Statllers and tell them I sent you :happy2:
Any ideas on Cost?! Rang them, Main guy isnt there so no price :(
3. Milltek/ aftermarket full turbo-back exhaust is a very good option. It helps the engine rev freer and frees up some extra horsies through the whole rev band. If you like a loud zorst, go for non-resonated. If you like it a little quieter, go for a resonated one. If you like, you can pop over to mine and I'll take you for that spin I promised and you can listen to a resonated system and check out the power from the REVO at stage 2+.
Got the Non-Res Cat-Back on the car, so will just get a Downpipe and Cat to finish the system off I think ;) Just need to see the costs involved in mapping it again!!!
4. You will not see much benefit from a HPFP unless you map the car to utilise it. Again Statllers have them in stock at about £300 and £50 fitting.

If you wanted to stick with APS and go stage 3 you would require the HPFP, a full intake and a full turbo-back exhaust to get the most benefit. To keep it all cool you would also be wise to invest in either a THS intercooler or a Forge FMIC. :happy2:

HTH :smiley:
I was only really looking to stay at Stage 2...With a Non-Res Turbo Back Milly and DSG Map! Anything else I need?!

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2009, 03:58:55 pm »
The DSG map would be my last purchase, Unless you plan on shooting up and down the pod or driving on the limit often.
Have a read of what it actually does for the DSG before you purchase it. To me its when you have done most every other mod going and you are trying to find that little bit extra. If you are new to a DSG box then i am pretty sure you wouldn't even notice anything different from what it is now.  :happy2:
I am not saying its no good by the way just that its not going to transform your car at the stage your at now with it.  :smiley:

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 04:05:03 pm »
The DSG map would be my last purchase, Unless you plan on shooting up and down the pod or driving on the limit often.
Have a read of what it actually does for the DSG before you purchase it. To me its when you have done most every other mod going and you are trying to find that little bit extra. If you are new to a DSG box then i am pretty sure you wouldn't even notice anything different from what it is now.  :happy2:
I am not saying its no good by the way just that its not going to transform your car at the stage your at now with it.  :smiley:

Hmm?! Any second opinions on this?! Having spoke to JBS in Yorkshire they claim its a MUST with the DSG, and gives you launch control etc...

Which Downpipe and Hi-Flow Cats will fit onto the Milltek Non-Res Cat-Back?! Just the Milly or do I have other options?!
« Last Edit: October 27, 2009, 04:15:51 pm by t20lau »
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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 04:43:24 pm »
you have lots of other options.  i think nearly all the  kits will interfit with eachother and if they dont its a case of using a reducer which is an easy job to fit.

miltek are not your only option. they were just one of the earliest companies to develop an exhaust for the TFSI and are also a little more expensive as well.

 other options are piperwerx, blueflame, piper.  some times internet sies are not upto date so a phone call would be advised

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 04:49:05 pm »
you have lots of other options.  i think nearly all the  kits will interfit with eachother and if they dont its a case of using a reducer which is an easy job to fit.

miltek are not your only option. they were just one of the earliest companies to develop an exhaust for the TFSI and are also a little more expensive as well.

 other options are piperwerx, blueflame, piper.  some times internet sies are not upto date so a phone call would be advised

Thanks man...

I'm not sure how Milltek sit with you guys, but I have bad times with em on the VXR...the Downpipes required revising and replaced as the craked!!!

I'll have a look about, as you said Milltek at the more costly!

Just want to know my options as I have the Milltek Cat-Back, but if I can get any Downpipe and Hi-Flow Cat to work with it I'll lok into it ;)

Any ideas on which ones give better performance?! Again in the VXR is was known that the Milltek performed poor when tuning...the Remus showed best gains!
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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 09:19:39 pm »
miltek had issues of the flexi part of the exhaust was breaking due to the amount of engin rock inherent in the TFSI due to the soft engine mounts.

iirc miltek now supply their DPs with an ECS lower engine mount insert to solve this

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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2009, 09:53:30 pm »
The DSG map would be my last purchase, Unless you plan on shooting up and down the pod or driving on the limit often.
Have a read of what it actually does for the DSG before you purchase it. To me its when you have done most every other mod going and you are trying to find that little bit extra. If you are new to a DSG box then i am pretty sure you wouldn't even notice anything different from what it is now.  :happy2:
I am not saying its no good by the way just that its not going to transform your car at the stage your at now with it.  :smiley:

Hmm?! Any second opinions on this?! Having spoke to JBS in Yorkshire they claim its a MUST with the DSG, and gives you launch control etc...

Which Downpipe and Hi-Flow Cats will fit onto the Milltek Non-Res Cat-Back?! Just the Milly or do I have other options?!

lol you get launch as standard mate.turn off traction and stick it in manual one foot ont the brake other on the throttle  :party:

good luck with the mods btw. i would say do the downpipe and if its milltek then i would keep th DP the same, then get the feul pump  :happy2:
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Re: Input from all members with Modified Cars...
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2009, 08:45:54 am »
The DSG map would be my last purchase, Unless you plan on shooting up and down the pod or driving on the limit often.
Have a read of what it actually does for the DSG before you purchase it. To me its when you have done most every other mod going and you are trying to find that little bit extra. If you are new to a DSG box then i am pretty sure you wouldn't even notice anything different from what it is now.  :happy2:
I am not saying its no good by the way just that its not going to transform your car at the stage your at now with it.  :smiley:

Hmm?! Any second opinions on this?! Having spoke to JBS in Yorkshire they claim its a MUST with the DSG, and gives you launch control etc...

Which Downpipe and Hi-Flow Cats will fit onto the Milltek Non-Res Cat-Back?! Just the Milly or do I have other options?!

lol you get launch as standard mate.turn off traction and stick it in manual one foot ont the brake other on the throttle  :party:

good luck with the mods btw. i would say do the downpipe and if its milltek then i would keep th DP the same, then get the feul pump  :happy2:


Hmm...I'll have to try that out!

I'm on the hunt for a DP now ;)
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