APR MQB 2.0TSI maps released

[RobH]

Theres an S3 with just a tuning box nothing else pulling 3.7 secs to 60 and 8.92 to 100mph. This platform will have insane performance when stage 2 and hardware is added

And forget about just looking at the power, look at that torque from just a map 114 ft-lb increase!!!

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

Lots of discussion about stealth monitoring of ecus....evidently they clock the fact that the car is mapped and don't mention it hoping you'll get through warranty period without issue.....want to make a claim......errrrr sorry sir 247 days ago we spotted your car was mapped and we never said anything so your blown turbo has been fixed and you owe us £8k

Remove able Tuning box at the moment chaps......

Merc/BMW doin it for years evidently....

[RobH]

Revo have just released their stage 1 aswell for the golf R 365hp

Ive herd one or two tuners have got around the td1 but still working on the map, be interesting to see if true!

[N8KOW]

Exciting times, these new engines have massive potential.

[Janner_Sy]

You can only imagine the performance at stage 3!!

[tony_danza]

What Dave said with BMW's F series ECUs, they can only be bench flashed and that is a whole world of pain with regard to impromptu dealer visits, time taken to perform, losing maps with updates etc . Only they also know when tuning boxes have been plugged in, and log that too. JuiceBoxes claim to be able to wipe that record (although I imagine non-spec boost/fuel/etc levels will still be logged?)... but you're putting a lot of faith in trusting the JB has cleared it should you have to claim.

They've all cottoned on to how much they're spending in warranty claims to fix badly tuned cars. It only stands to reason they want to reduce that. It also means the introduction of manufacturer approved tuning, BMW already has its M-Performance line or Alpina. Mini their JCW stuff.... etc etc etc.

[rich83]

Why don't VAG have an authorised tuning company/deal. Like brabus. Thus retaining warrenty.

Dad's just got a new S3.... Probably fast enough for him as is  

[Shorty]

APR's GTI7 making more torque than REVO's 7R?

APR GTI7: STAGE 1: 316 HP - 381 lb/ft
REVO 7R: STAGE 1: 365 HP - 354 lb/ft

Is the R400 an S2+ 7R ?  Or does the R400 have a bigger turbo for even more exploitation?

APR could have a massive spike though and drop off very fast.

There's a dyno graph on Revos site and it holds the torque very very well.

[Janner_Sy]

APR's GTI7 making more torque than REVO's 7R?

APR GTI7: STAGE 1: 316 HP - 381 lb/ft
REVO 7R: STAGE 1: 365 HP - 354 lb/ft

Is the R400 an S2+ 7R ?  Or does the R400 have a bigger turbo for even more exploitation?

APR could have a massive spike though and drop off very fast.


There's a dyno graph on Revos site and it holds the torque very very well.

the 315Hp figure was with race fuel according to VWVortex

That said, from dyno days ive done the K03 has often outperformed the K04 for torque

[Shorty]

APR's GTI7 making more torque than REVO's 7R?

APR GTI7: STAGE 1: 316 HP - 381 lb/ft
REVO 7R: STAGE 1: 365 HP - 354 lb/ft

Is the R400 an S2+ 7R ?  Or does the R400 have a bigger turbo for even more exploitation?

APR could have a massive spike though and drop off very fast.


There's a dyno graph on Revos site and it holds the torque very very well.

the 315Hp figure was with race fuel according to VWVortex

That said, from dyno days ive done the K03 has often outperformed the K04 for torque

315bhp was on 93 octane (equal to 98RON UK)

[GrayMK5GTI]

The 7R must be my next car. 

3.7 to 60 in a MK6 R takes stage 2+ mod levels 

This shouldn't get dirty valves or cam follower problems either 

[Janner_Sy]

This made me laugh. 

[AndrewJB]

MQB is lighter

[DaveB@Vagbremtechnic]

Cant help but think that 100kg strapline is a bit misleading, much is said about the ali suspension on the MQB but its no different to a TT2 and the 7R suspension DNA is definitely 8PS3 with admittedly a weight reduction program.

Im almost certain you could retrofit 7R uprights to a 2007 S3 or a 2005 Mk5

They may have got rid of 100kg on certain mid range models but id be interested in a back to back weight comparison 8PS3/8VS3 bog basic car with no extras

[George]

Parkers list the following:

8P3 S3
3 Door Manual 1455kg
3 Door S Tronic 1475kg
Sportback Manual 1495kg
Sportback S Tronic 1515kg

8V S3
3 Door Manual 1395kg
3 Door S Tronic 1415kg
Sportback Manual 1425kg
Sportback S Tronic 1445kg

So according to them, the three door cars are 60kg lighter, and the Sportbacks are 70kg lighter