for the guru's.... stage 1,2,2+

[DamoP]

hoping the guru's can tell me the difference and requirements in stage 1,2 & 2+

i think stage 1 is
decent induction kit
cat back stainless exhaust
and chip?

[Shaw]

Stage 1 is just a map on a standard engine.

Stage 2 is sports cat or decat, 3 inch down pipe and exhaust system. Bigger IC and induction kit.

Stage 2+. All of the above with an updated hpfp.

Stage 3 is all of the above plus injectors and bigger turbo.


That's not set in stone though. For example, if you have a 3" downpipe and exhaust but no induction kit, any tuner will be able to give you a slightly more aggressive stage 1.


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[DamoP]

thanks dude, just planing the next few months 

[ED30GTI]

Mods I've got are
Itg induction kit
De-cat down pipe
And mapped at r-tech
And on my print out it says it's a stage 1.5 

[DamoP]

Mods I've got are
Itg induction kit
De-cat down pipe
And mapped at r-tech
And on my print out it says it's a stage 1.5 

BHP?

[ED30GTI]

It's ran 337bhp and 333ft lbs on r-tech rollers 

[DamoP]

It's ran 337bhp and 333ft lbs on r-tech rollers 

holly f*ck  thought that would be around 303

[ED30GTI]

It ran 300bhp when I first had the stage one done as standard , then I went back after afew months when I had the itg and down pipe fitted , now I'm thinking of adding and intercooler 

[th3_f15t]

Stage 2 mainly comes from the mapping, as when you fit a full turbo back exhaust, you have to program out the sensors in the exhaust which normally isn't part of a stage 1 map.

[ED30 Fish]

Mods I've got are
Itg induction kit
De-cat down pipe
And mapped at r-tech
And on my print out it says it's a stage 1.5 

Nice, what does the de-cat downpipe do to the exhaust note?

I like the idea of 330bhp but don't really want an aftermarket exhaust system.

[th3_f15t]

From what I've seen, it makes the exhaust louder. Bare in mind running a de-cat on the street is illegal and if you crash and insurance investigate your car, they will refuse to pay out. If you want a standard sounding car but 330bhp, look towards resonated exhaust systems, these have additional silencers that reduce the noise output to almost stock levels.

[ED30GTI]

Mods I've got are
Itg induction kit
De-cat down pipe
And mapped at r-tech
And on my print out it says it's a stage 1.5 

Nice, what does the de-cat downpipe do to the exhaust note?

I like the idea of 330bhp but don't really want an aftermarket exhaust system.

It's abit louder and it got a nice burble but not overly loud , my decat is listed as a mod on my insurance 

[th3_f15t]

I didn't think de-cats were street legal (MOT failures)?

http://www.millteksport.com/exhaust.faqs.cfm (Under the heading legal)

I'm open for being corrected (although please say not as I can't afford to be dreaming of de-cat/stage 2).

[Shaw]

De cats are not road legal. It's illegal to modify any aspect of a cars emission control (or something to that effect). If your car would fail an mot, it's technically not road legal despite it having a current mot.

Insurance policies also have clauses that state your car will not be covered under their policy unless in roadworthy condition.


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[TommyR]

The stage really depends on the tuner as some have a 1.5 or 1+ and it also depends if your car started life with a K03 or K04...