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Offline Black9

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Snapped wheel bolts
« on: July 27, 2014, 08:32:00 pm »
Just had a bit of a disaster. Removing my wheels off my golf and onto wheel number 3 and whilst removing the wheels bolts I've managed to snap 2 of the heads off so now they're stuck in the wheel hub!!!

Got no idea how I managed to do this, 2 off the wheels came off fine and the 3rd one the bolts were seized in tight. This has never happened before... The wheels were fitted around a wk ago by a garage and today I was removing them in place of my Monzas. Could this be down to the garage fitting the bolts at a weird angle or down to me?? I was turning the bolts dead centre!!

How do I go about removing the bolts and how much am I looking at paying?

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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 10:28:47 pm »
Go back to the garage, they've quite clearly tightened it up with an impact gun, or as you suggested cross threaded it in there and continued to tighten any way. Should be a simply enough job to drill and tap fingers crossed. I wouldn't want them doing it though that's for sure!
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 10:30:38 pm »
In all the years I've worked on cars I've never snapped a wheel bolt. Even bolts that have required a section of scaffold to get them cracked off.

Upload a couple of pics.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 10:37:16 pm »
Sounds like they have been over tightened
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 10:57:23 pm »
Yep the wheels were tightened with an impact gun. Never thought anything of it at the time...

Are use guys 100% certain it's down to the garage?? I don't want to accuse anyone without knowing for sure..

Not sure how to upload pics, sorry

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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 11:23:15 pm »
Quote from: Black9 on July 27, 2014, 10:57:23 pm
Yep the wheels were tightened with an impact gun. Never thought anything of it at the time...

Are use guys 100% certain it's down to the garage?? I don't want to accuse anyone without knowing for sure..

Not sure how to upload pics, sorry


open a account in photobucket then up load you pics then copy and paste the img in
If the garage were the last to touch them few days ago then i would say it sound like it
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2014, 11:31:11 pm »
I'll try upload pics tom via my iPhone & photo bucket??

Yep they were the last ones to put wheels on...
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 07:49:56 am »
What's wrong with using a windy gun? The best mechanic on TV uses one [Edd China] so it must be good enough.  :rolleye:

Honestly though, I reckon you'll have no joy going back to the garage as they'll fob you of. Unless they actually snapped them tightening the bolts then you'll have a hard job convincing them they should be fixing the problem.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 08:24:00 am »
I know the guy personally that fitted the bolts so I've asked him to come round this week to remove the wheels, broken bolts and existing bolts that are still fitted...

He says he should be able to remove the disc/caliper and wind them out. Not sure whether I should be paying Him or not!?
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2014, 01:06:41 pm »
You should've given him the wheel brace from the boot and asked him to take them off. After all, that's what you'd have to use in an emergency.
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2014, 03:14:34 pm »
I was trying to save time removing them myself, look where that got me  :signLOL:

On a serious Note, he'll be removing the rest of the bolts including the snapped ones incase anything else snaps

« Last Edit: July 28, 2014, 03:42:08 pm by Black9 »
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 03:54:59 pm »
Quote from: Viking on July 28, 2014, 01:06:41 pm
You should've given him the wheel brace from the boot and asked him to take them off. After all, that's what you'd have to use in an emergency.
+1 I'd never use a buzz gun, always use a torque wrench and keep it in the boot. Had work done in my old 106 a few years ago and I took it back to the garage and said how the f*ck am I meant to undo these bolts when they've been but gunned to 350nm not 60nm
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 04:12:07 pm »
Surely the bolts are the strongest part as you don't want them snapping and the wheel falling off, and if they have snapped, what has that done to the threads in the hubs? it must have stretched them  :driver:
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 05:25:13 pm »
Quote from: paulw123 on July 28, 2014, 04:12:07 pm
Surely the bolts are the strongest part as you don't want them snapping and the wheel falling off, and if they have snapped, what has that done to the threads in the hubs? it must have stretched them  :driver:


Individually the bolts don't need to be the strongest part as there are 5 bolts sharing the load.

I agree with the above, never use an airgun to tighten up wheel bolts, for the sole reason that if you have a flat you won't be able to get them off at the roadside. Of course this doesn't apply if you're the best mechanic in the world  :wink:

To the original point, weld another bolt to the thread of the snapped one and then loosen via the welded bolt. Much easier than removing calipers etc  :happy2:

Good luck buddy
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Re: Snapped wheel bolts
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 06:15:53 pm »
All will be revealed Tom when he comes round to remove the bolts. I'll update then
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