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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2014, 07:26:24 pm »
Isn't that an offence by the van driver on that type of road since your showing white reflectors not red, even if it's broad day light?
no as it liveried emergency services vehicle
and because its daylight and the lighting regs you refer aren't valid in daylight
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2014, 08:02:24 pm »
As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2014, 08:03:16 pm »
As well, I thought the police had to be on the same side of the road as the targeted car in order to take a reading, otherwise you can argue the reading was invalid from not being conducted correctly?
nope not true. the cameras are facing the correct way to catch motorist so they would stand up in a court

Fair enough. Need a different excuse now...
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 08:55:30 am »
I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?

I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.

This one really is up in the air.

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 09:42:03 am »

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #20 on: September 11, 2014, 12:44:10 pm »
Just an update to everyone on this.

July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.

6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.

If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #21 on: September 11, 2014, 12:59:34 pm »
Just an update to everyone on this.

July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.

6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.

If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:

They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them

That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #22 on: September 11, 2014, 01:20:02 pm »
I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?

I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.

This one really is up in the air.

Mobile vans are capable of clocking you at a huge distance
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #23 on: September 11, 2014, 01:50:09 pm »
Just an update to everyone on this.

July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.

6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.

If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:

They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them

That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...

The first correspondence is never the fine , they will ask you who the driver was etc and then you send that back to them , then you get the fine and the choices . The process is called the Notice of Intended Prosecution and has as the above poster states 14 days (Not business days either) from the date of the offence , if it is posted then allowance is made for postage .

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #24 on: September 11, 2014, 01:51:58 pm »
I imagine there's nobody on the forum that works with the speed cams but does anyone have an idea what distance they take the photo from?

I've been told it's taken right as you're passing it but I know from the website they can actually detect you from 100's of metres away.

This one really is up in the air.

Mobile vans are capable of clocking you at a huge distance

But generally not from too far away , 200m probably the furthest due to chances of the beam being interfered with .
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #25 on: September 11, 2014, 08:30:02 pm »
Just an update to everyone on this.

July 27th is when I passed this speed camera. It is now 11th September.

6 weeks later and no ticket so it looks like they don't get you from the other side of the road.

If I come home later and find a letter in the post today of all days after posting this I give up on life :fighting:

They have 14 business days + postage days after the incident in order to get the speeding ticket to you....
If it comes after that then its too late for them

That van wouldn't be taking a reading from the other side of the road as traffic on his side would be getting in the way surely...

The first correspondence is never the fine , they will ask you who the driver was etc and then you send that back to them , then you get the fine and the choices . The process is called the Notice of Intended Prosecution and has as the above poster states 14 days (Not business days either) from the date of the offence , if it is posted then allowance is made for postage .



But the NIP is sent to whoever is registered owner of the vehicle on the DVLA's records so if you were driving a company car, got clocked by a speed camera but didn't get the NIP given to you by your place of employment until 6 months later, so long as your place of employment received the NIP within 14 days of the offence you'd still have to cough up the fine and take the points / lesson in how to avoid being speed taxed.

Equally if you have just bought the car 2nd hand and the registered owner details have not yet been updated on the DVLA's system but the police sent the NIP out within the 14 day period to what they believed was the registered owner but turns out to be the previous owner then you as the new owner still have to cough up the fine and take the points / lesson in how to avoid the speeding tax.

Basically the Police only have to show that they sent out the NIP in a timely fashion and it is not their duty to hunt down who was driving the vehicle in this time frame. As stated if they fail to do this then you get let off the hook.

I managed to avoid what i thought was going to be a NIP about a month ago, either the camera isn't switched on, there's no film in it, they couldn't get me because there were no lines in the lane i was in or i managed to get my speed down in time, either way if a NIP were to land on my doormat tomorrow all i have to do is fill in the appropriate bits of info along with a cover letter stating they've run out of time so they can keep their NIP*

*The precise way to phrase this can be found on the Pepipo forum - very useful with its info and real time case studies on speeding, fines, points, the police and the law.
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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #26 on: September 11, 2014, 08:57:39 pm »

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Re: Speed Camera - Can they get you???
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2014, 08:52:21 am »
From recent experience,  i know that they can target you in a van, from the opposite side of a normal 2 lane A_road (not dual carraigeway). Only their cock up with the NIP saved the day. Somerset.

Many years ago we were zapped by a traffic car under similar conditions to the op. But, no mid barrier. Clear, dry empty dual carraigeway. Copper was "peeping" just out of sight down the hill of a slip road, facing us as oncoming. Obviously waiting for someone heading opposite direction to us.
Temptation was too much? He did a u_turn across all 4 lanes to pull us over, further down the road.
"Interesting" discussions with driver, and later his boss, about danger of alleged speeding offence, versus that of doing a u_turn across the grass in centre reservation, then travelling very considerably faster that us to catch up! They dropped the matter.
All rather "Hazard county" stuff!