Golf and Scirocco R Launch info

[andrewparker]

So they though it was better?!

[Felix]

Yes. Not a resounding victory, and bear in mind its not one of your 'evo' tests, but its was pretty much as fast as the focus on most roads they tested on and the interior was much much better. A very good car by all accounts.

[andrewparker]

God damn it, knowing they're good make me want one 

[Felix]

I think the roco R looks great too, much better than the brash focus but each to their own.

[Sunglasses Ron]

Interesting read that, must say..
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Volkswagen-Scirocco-2.0-TSI-265-R/244610/
I for one would definately opt for the Rocco R over the Golf R. Better looks, less weight, more desirable etc (all IMO of course) AND 2k cheaper.. 

[Sunglasses Ron]

I'm saving manically for an M3 saloon. I've heard of dealers letting fully loaded brand new cars go for under £40K. It would make a seriously good long term proposition for me.

These have come and gone, there were about 30 cars, preregistered by BMW UK that they released into the dealer network.  As you can imagine they were snapped up instantly.  I think this was approx 6 months ago now, and they have no problem shifting them now.

This is true, as my mate who is a dealer had 2 off his local BMW dealer and made a tidy profit too  .
He has recently had his hands on this..
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1305502.htm
Wasn't with for long though before it was snapped up (not his pics by the way, original owner's). New owner traded in a mint CSL with just 14k on the clocks..  

[neg]

I rules out the Rocco as I though I best get 5 dr next but the Mrs just said I dont need a 5 door as she has the fun bus and then said the 3door always looks better anyway 

Maybe a Rocco could be on the cards instead...

[tony_danza]

They'll do what they always do - use the "limited numbers" gag and sell their quota at list price.

Then once they've all been delivered, every Tom, Dick and Harry middle manager in the VAG group will have one on the company car scheme - 6 months later the market gets flooded with used cars and the owners with the first ones are furious because (a) it's not as limited as they thought and (b) its lost a ton of money overnight.

VAG control what their staff are allowed to order and in what spec, so they can control forecourt pricing - The 2nd hand ones are  priced to entice people into ordering new with a bit of suddenly available 'discount'. We saw this with the ED30.

Then there's the grey imports.

You've gotta REALLY want one to be one of the first.

[andrewparker]

Yes. Not a resounding victory, and bear in mind its not one of your 'evo' tests, but its was pretty much as fast as the focus on most roads they tested on and the interior was much much better. A very good car by all accounts.

Apparently the Sirocco R is in the Evo COTY test in a couple of weeks. Can't wait for my copy to drop through the door, should be very interesting indeed!

[RedRobin]

....

So, are the R sisters debutanting at the same ball?

[tony_danza]

Dare I say it? but in anything other than rain, I can see the 'Rocco R kicking the Golf R's arse...

It's cheaper, better equiped, lighter, lower centre of gravity - unless you want a 5 door or REALLY want 4WD, I'd choose the 'Rocco personally. It makes more sense.

Flame suit on.

[RedRobin]

Dare I say it? but in anything other than rain, I can see the 'Rocco R kicking the Golf R's arse...

It's cheaper, better equiped, lighter, lower centre of gravity - unless you want a 5 door or REALLY want 4WD, I'd choose the 'Rocco personally. It makes more sense.

Flame suit on.

....Pity that the Rocco is the ugly sister though

Sense has very little to do with what is invariably in the end an irrational final decision about what car to buy. IMO of course.

[andrewparker]

From the video the line up is as follows:

Lotus Evora
Lamborghini Murciélago LP670-4 SV
Lamborghini Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni
Ferrari California
Porsche GT3
Aston Martin V12 Vantage
VW Scirocco R
Ford Focus RS
Noble M600

Which would normally leave another 6 cars. I'd guess the Jaguar XF-R would be one of those, and maybe the Renault Clio 200 Cup and Audi R8 V10?

I'd give my left bollock to take part in one of those tests!

[Top Cat]

Dare I say it? but in anything other than rain, I can see the 'Rocco R kicking the Golf R's arse...

It's cheaper, better equiped, lighter, lower centre of gravity - unless you want a 5 door or REALLY want 4WD, I'd choose the 'Rocco personally. It makes more sense.

Flame suit on.

....Pity that the Rocco is the ugly sister though

Sense has very little to do with what is invariably in the end an irrational final decision about what car to buy. IMO of course.

I have to agree with Robin, design and looks play a big role in what most people finally choose, I love the rocco but it doesn't look good from every angle, were as the golf is a safer classic design. 

[tony_danza]

Dare I say it? but in anything other than rain, I can see the 'Rocco R kicking the Golf R's arse...

It's cheaper, better equiped, lighter, lower centre of gravity - unless you want a 5 door or REALLY want 4WD, I'd choose the 'Rocco personally. It makes more sense.

Flame suit on.

....Pity that the Rocco is the ugly sister though

Sense has very little to do with what is invariably in the end an irrational final decision about what car to buy. IMO of course.

Nah, I think it's really cool - but then I also have a C30 which people think is weird. Very subjective.

Sense has everything to do with spending money, Lada could make the most beautiful looking car in the world tomorrow and I still wouldn't buy it.