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RNS 510 retrofit - MFSW not working... sort of
« on: August 06, 2014, 06:57:54 pm »
I have recently completed a retrofit of the RNS 510 (1T0 035 686 E), 9WZ bluetooth unit (3C8 035 730 D) and upgraded the CAN gateway (7N0 907 530 M). Everything is working nicely now except for some minor details, mfsw being one of them.

The car is a 2005 Volkswagen Golf 2.0 TDi with the red MFD and 2005.5 style mfsw buttons. The vol+ and vol- buttons have always worked and still do, but the prev track and next track buttons do not... well, sort of. If I tick both "Shortpress Steering Wheel Buttons Installed" and "Communication Instrument Cluster via Operation and Display Protocol (BAP)" in VCDS then the buttons will work, but I loose the highline display so that is not an option. Also, going to the Audio menu on the display and using the wiper stalker buttons to change tracks - as I have seen suggested other places - appears to do nothing under any circumstances.

However, if I do a cold boot or reset ( < + > + star) on the head unit and wait until the music starts playing I am able to use prev track and next track as normal for about a minute. After that they are back to not functioning. I noticed that they stopped working at the exact same moment as my MFD started displaying the compass etc. Any advise on how I can get these buttons working permanently without enabling BAP?

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VCDS Version: Release 12.12.2
Data version: 20140212

Tuesday,05,August,2014,22:10:27:22644

Chassis Type: 1K (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72 76
          77 7D

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ5W203558   Mileage: 181270km/112635miles

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Xenon Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 03G-906-016-BKD.lbl
   Part No SW: 03G 906 016 AQ    HW: 028 101 184 8
   Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000SG  9971 
   Revision: 12345678    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E1531981
   Coding: 0000172
   Shop #: WSC 00330 218 53017
   VCID: 72C533A76DF7558E9D3-8027

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 379 E
   Component: ESP ALLRAD MK60     0104 
   Coding: 0031362
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3449F5BF57631BBE4FF-8061

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 AC
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0404 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 68F151CF5B2BAF5E337-803D

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 049 N    HW: 1K0 937 049 N*
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H34 0803 
   Revision: 00H34000    Serial number: 00000001381487
   Coding: EF8B8F0600041800001400001400000000187F075C
   Shop #: WSC 00330 218 181313
   VCID: 3A55DB877507EDCE953-806F

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K1 955 119 B  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0401 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 00330 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 N  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 006  0605 
   Coding: 00221517
   Shop #: WSC 00330 

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 E    HW: 1K0 909 605 E
   Component: 0C AIRBAG VW8R  024 6300 
   Revision: 03024000    Serial number: 0037KD00S9TN 
   Coding: 0012355
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 2E7DE7D7B94F316E39B-807B

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0838116B9

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME07775B26H

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME056E404AA

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME056408483

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 G    HW: 1K0 953 549 G
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 521 0050 
   Coding: 0002042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 364DCFB7411F09AE71B-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Component: Lenkradmodul    004 0030

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 920 871 B
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 0812 
   Coding: 0005103
   Shop #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 297714CB80A15656EC9-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533)       Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
   Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 M    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway H42 1623 
   Revision:   H42       Serial number: 170312F1001509
   Coding: 350002
   Shop #: WSC 35110 377 08192
   VCID: 3A55DB87B507EDCE953-806F

No fault code found.

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Address 22: AWD        Labels: 1K0-907-554.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 554 A
   Component: HALDEX 4Motion      0105 
   Coding: 0000001
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2B7BEEC38A5D44461E5-807E

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K0 920 871 B
   Component: IMMO            VDD 0812 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 297714CB80A15656EC9-807C

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N9312149
   Coding: 06010000010000210000
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 364DCFB7811F09AE71B-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0119 
   Coding: 0000054
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3245F3A7AD77158E5D3-8067

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K1 909 144 H
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.3       1502 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 3041F9AFA37B279E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AR    HW: 1K0 959 433 AR
   Component:    KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101 
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 009002085103087F2D04850560084FC6F0A440
   Shop #: WSC 01392 785 00200
   VCID: 8021E96FD35BF71E1B7-80D5

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H02 1301

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 B
   Component: Neigungssensor  004 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177
   Component: Innenraumueberw.004 0101

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 G
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 09 0119 
   Coding: 0000054
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 334BF6A3526D1C86565-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 55: Xenon Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0002 
   Coding: 0000004
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: F4C9B5BF97E3DBBE0FF-80A1

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506)       Labels: 1T0-035-680.clb
   Part No SW: 1T0 035 686 E    HW: 1T0 035 686 E
   Component: RNS-MID       H21 6270 
   Revision: AB001001    Serial number: VWZ6Z7N9312149
   Coding: 06010000010000210000
   Shop #: WSC 05314 123 12345
   VCID: 364DCFB7811F09AE71B-8063

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 919 859 B
   Component: EU West V10  8048

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0217 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3041F9AFA37B279E2B7-8065

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN1.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuersteuergeraet 06 0213 
   Coding: 0000016
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 3147FCABA8712E96249-8064

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist        Labels: 1K0-919-283.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 919 283 A
   Component: 01 Einparkhilfe     0101 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D7FE0DBB4494A76001-8078

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone (J412)       Labels: 3C8-035-730-A.clb
   Part No SW: 3C8 035 730 D    HW: 3C8 035 730 D
   Component: Telefon       022 0946 
   Revision: --------    Serial number: 35502105030069
   Coding: 020000000100000000000001
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVPremi 002708
   ROD: EV_UHVPremi_SE36.rod
   VCID: 246905FF2F838B3EDFF-8071

1 Fault Found:
9458193 - Control Module for Cellular Telephone
          B1052 14 [009] - Open or Short to Ground
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 4
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 238
                    Mileage: 181274 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 20:54:23


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Address 7D: Aux. Heat        Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E    HW: 1K0 963 235 E
   Component: PTC-Element         0404 
   Revision: 00800000    Serial number:               
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 2D7FE0DBB4494A76001-8078

No fault code found.




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Re: RNS 510 retrofit - MFSW not working... sort of
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 07:13:00 pm »
Are you in the UK, or do you have EU clocks?

I see you have 871 clocks, these are designed to work with the older style buttons in conjunction with the MFA wiper stalk/rocker switch.

BAP should be disabled as it is not a mk5 protocol.

Just looked at a scan of my previous car, 6spd tdi with cruise and the Steering Module coding was 2022 and cluster coding 3403 (I had headlight washers etc).
Used to have Edition 30 - number 009 and a GT TDI 140.
Now have an S4 B8 Avant (stage 2)

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Re: RNS 510 retrofit - MFSW not working... sort of
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 07:48:00 pm »
I have EU clocks and you are correct that I access- and navigate menus etc. using the buttons at the end of the wiper stalk. BAP is disabled.

Did you have a similar retrofit with functioning prev/next track buttons with the coding you mention? I came across this thread which seems to describe a problem similar to mine, but he made it work with the wiper stalk buttons and does not mention that the steering wheel buttons does work until the head unit is fully initialized.

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Re: RNS 510 retrofit - MFSW not working... sort of
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 09:51:37 pm »
Most of the chaps replying on there are members on here - it was a long time ago but maybe one will remember the conclusion if you PM?

I did retrofit MFSW on my old car, but i had x72 clocks which are designed to be used with the 'newer' button layout, so all worked straight off, and yes that coding was taken from a scan I have.

What steering module do you have?
Used to have Edition 30 - number 009 and a GT TDI 140.
Now have an S4 B8 Avant (stage 2)

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Re: RNS 510 retrofit - MFSW not working... sort of
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 11:55:36 pm »
What steering module do you have?
I haven't physically inspected it, but the scan I posted says 1K0 953 549 G.