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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #90 on: November 13, 2009, 01:39:57 pm »
Interesting stuff, thanks Dave (and Tony, tres amusing). I actually run the new version of the old DS2000, the DS Performance. Partly because they are actually road legal and also because the work a bit better from cold and arent such a harsh compound on my OE Delphi discs. I only have a diesel Focus (still... GTi keeps getting snatched from under my nose for one reason or another) which is no rocket ship, but they are a vast improvement over the OE Motorcraft pads, which were quite easy to overheat (Mk1 TDCi Focus is very under-braked IMHO), and are more than adequate for occasional 'spirited' road use, especially with a nose heavy car. I was planning on sticking the same on my GTi when it materialises.

It helps that I have a contact as the Ferodo distributor who gets me them for trade plus a decent discount.

EDIT: Tony, I doubt I'm the only who's intrigued to know the identity of 'RD'...
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #91 on: November 13, 2009, 01:54:10 pm »
I'm not allowed to say  :wink:
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #92 on: November 13, 2009, 02:01:04 pm »
Quite correct hes not allowed to say!







so who was it mate?
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #93 on: November 13, 2009, 02:04:23 pm »
Pagid grooved discs with pagid blue pads FTW  :star:
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #94 on: November 13, 2009, 03:16:53 pm »
If somebody wanted to try the Mintex 1144's then they are available, the mintex part number is MDB2677M1144
 and the most expensive price I've seen is 96 quid inc vat from Camskill. Personally I dont think you'd be dissapointed and thats probably a good 40 quid cheaper than the DS2500 for for all intents the same level of pad
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #95 on: November 13, 2009, 03:28:13 pm »
My mate swears by some crazy Mintex on his Leon track car - using the theory of 'he might rinse through a set a track day, but they're dirt cheap'
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #96 on: November 13, 2009, 04:23:11 pm »
John (harveysduvet) had them on at Anglesea last time out on his Boxster Fronted Mk4, and in summarising his comments they held their own on the track (just) were cheap and felt a little wooden when approaching the limit (which aint always a bad thing). I think ultimately he preferred the Pagid 4-2's but at twice the price they didn't give twice the performance.

The fact that he's even putting them in the same category as the 4-2's probably means they would give the DS2500 a good run for their money at 2/3rds the cost
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Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled = DAVEB hope you are still reading this...
« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2009, 10:31:13 pm »
Hi All

Possibly another silly question - DaveB hope you are still reading  :smiley:

Are the discs rotational??? Is there a left & right disc?  Does the direction pattern matter?  Don't know how to explain...  but hopefully you get what I mean



Is this the Near Side or for the Off Side?  Just fitted to the N/S.

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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled = DAVEB hope you are still reading this.
« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2009, 10:33:48 pm »
Quote from: nc35 on November 18, 2009, 10:31:13 pm
Hi All

Possibly another silly question - DaveB hope you are still reading  :smiley:

Are the discs rotational??? Is there a left & right disc?  Does the direction pattern matter?  Don't know how to explain...  but hopefully you get what I mean



Is this the Near Side or for the Off Side?  Just fitted to the N/S.



check the direction of the cooling vanes.
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled = DAVEB hope you are still reading this.
« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2009, 10:50:53 pm »
Quote from: Poverty on November 18, 2009, 10:33:48 pm
check the direction of the cooling vanes.

OMG - What????  Just knew there would be more to this than met the eye  :ashamed:

What direction should the cooling vanes be dare I ask?  (Assuming that the cooling vanes are the things between the discs lol)

Also, what is the procedure for correctly bedding in the pads.  As mentioned several times in this post?

(God I feel like such an idiot)
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2009, 11:33:19 pm »
Are the grooved discs you have fitted or standard?
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #101 on: November 19, 2009, 09:09:08 am »
That IMO would be a N/S - but don't take that as gospel!

Bedding in pads, what type have you bought?
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #102 on: November 19, 2009, 09:56:57 am »
Quote from: JPC on November 18, 2009, 11:33:19 pm
Are the grooved discs you have fitted or standard?

Don't really understand the question, sorry...

Quote from: tony_danza on November 19, 2009, 09:09:08 am
That IMO would be a N/S - but don't take that as gospel!

Bedding in pads, what type have you bought?

Just got some bog standard mintex pads MDB2604 from memory.  Came recommended with the discs.
I am not a fast driver or a heavy braker.  So I thought these would be OK...  Re-reading this post I may decided to upgrade pads.
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #103 on: November 19, 2009, 10:11:51 am »
If you're not a fast driver/heavy driver - just see how you get on before spending money.

Bedding in. Read the instructions, but this is a rough guide. Go somewhere very quiet and with enough room to do the stopping bit of the procedure in 1 go, so you don't have to stop still unexpectedly

10x medium force stops from 30-slow rolling
Drive gently for 15 mins
10x medium to hard force stops from 60-slow rolling
Drive gently for 15 mins

Leave it for a couple of hours to cool down fully and try avoiding being stationary with your foot on the brakes, otherwise you may leave pad deposits on the discs and get vibration.
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Re: Lets talk brakes: Grooved & drilled vs Grooved
« Reply #104 on: November 19, 2009, 10:14:51 am »
Thank you.

Been driving really steady hardly using the brakes, thought that was the best thing to do.

But will try the above today.

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