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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2014, 12:49:47 am »
A sad story, I was on that road a few days ago and saw the flowers tied to a road sign post :sad1:

However it is a clear example of excessive speed in a high risk area is dangerous
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2014, 07:13:24 am »
Very brave of the family to allow that video to be used, respect. Tragic loss.
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2014, 03:43:09 pm »
very sad indeed!

That's a crazy accident, on the outside city road. Bike was speeding but the cage driver did not yield when he should have. Cager's fault.... I did not see you is not an excuse and the bike was not doing like 120 mph... Speed limit there was like 60 mph and I bet you many cagers were doing 80 there in reality.
There is a big discussion now over courts being lenient in such cases. Driver should be probably imprisoned for 10 years....

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2014, 06:50:10 pm »
From the time the biker overtook the car to the point of impact is 5 seconds. In that 5 seconds the biker traveled approx. 750ft (or 250yds). Had he been obeying the law and traveling at 60mph then he would have covered just 450ft (150yds). You can't travel at those speeds and rely on other people to get you out of the sh*t hole you land yourself in, because at some point it's going to end up like this. Unfortunately for the car driver, people are keen to lay the blame at his feet rather than at the feet of the speeding idiot ("legend" to his friends apparently).
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2014, 07:53:39 pm »
Biker is not saint here but there is no argument that cager caused the accident and not the biker.... Biker was riding in the correct lane and a car came in this lane unlawfully as simple as that. Cager should yield and he did not. Obviously if biker was riding slower perhaps he could have avoid the car or even attempt braking or the car would have managed to finish the turn. Car misjudged the speed of bike is a common cause of accidents...

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2014, 08:54:18 pm »
In this instance it's very likely that when the driver looked for oncoming vehicles (and saw a car traveling at road legal speeds) the biker wasn't there. In that case the statement "I never saw him" was possibly incorrect, and should be modified to read "When I checked for oncoming traffic the biker was not there." Had the biker been driving at road legal speed, he would still not be there when the diver made his turn.

In any event, another motorcyclist has died. That doesn't surprise me, it just makes me glad that I'm no longer one of them. If there's a chance that I'm going to be involved in a fatal accident with a motorbike, I'm glad I'm the one driving sensibly in a car...
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2014, 09:00:35 pm »
From the time the biker overtook the car to the point of impact is 5 seconds. In that 5 seconds the biker traveled approx. 750ft (or 250yds). Had he been obeying the law and traveling at 60mph then he would have covered just 450ft (150yds). You can't travel at those speeds and rely on other people to get you out of the sh*t hole you land yourself in, because at some point it's going to end up like this. Unfortunately for the car driver, people are keen to lay the blame at his feet rather than at the feet of the speeding idiot ("legend" to his friends apparently).

Totally agree with the above.
I see so many bikers on the road riding like assholes

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #22 on: September 06, 2014, 11:07:22 pm »
Still 5 seconds of obversation time... count them.
How many do you get at 60/65mph?... 7 seconds?

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #23 on: September 06, 2014, 11:12:32 pm »
Still 5 seconds of obversation time... count them.
How many do you get at 60/65mph?... 7 seconds?


Oh so traveling at 100 mph is ok now is it ?
Going past a junction were every biker knows a car driver never looks propley

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #24 on: September 06, 2014, 11:14:19 pm »
Still 5 seconds of obversation time... count them.
How many do you get at 60/65mph?... 7 seconds?
Oh so traveling at 100 mph is ok now is it ?
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. :indifferent:

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #25 on: September 06, 2014, 11:19:03 pm »
Still 5 seconds of obversation time... count them.
How many do you get at 60/65mph?... 7 seconds?
Oh so traveling at 100 mph is ok now is it ?
Yes, that's exactly what I mean. :indifferent:

Sorry I did not read propley
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2014, 11:53:00 pm »
Guys the thread was placed on here just to make us all aware of what could and can happen, not for us to all point the finger and blame, if we all had to pay the price with our lives for a day when we've had a mad  drive or ride  theres a very good chance 90% of us on here wouldn't be here today. bloody awful way to go out. so I say rip again.

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #27 on: September 06, 2014, 11:56:48 pm »
Guys the thread was placed on here just to make us all aware of what could and can happen, not for us to all point the finger and blame, if we all had to pay the price with our lives for a day when we've had a mad  drive or ride  theres a very good chance 90% of us on here wouldn't be here today. bloody awful way to go out. so I say rip again.
Point taken was just being honest,
After watching him overtake anything in his way
Speeding at 100mph I think he was takin the piss to be honest

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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2014, 12:51:13 am »
A ton on a fast bike is cruising, I think we've established that he was speeding.
GTI's are VERY slow compared to a fast bike.
It was a bad move by the biker.
It was a bad move by the driver.
C'est la vie.
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Re: Fatal motorbike crash.
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2014, 12:54:02 am »
A ton on a fast bike is cruising, I think we've established that he was speeding.
GTI's are VERY slow compared to a fast bike.
It was a bad move by the biker.
It was a bad move by the driver.
C'est la vie.
RIP.