Swapping my mk 5 for a brand newy

[Saintsteve]

Still think the 5 rewards the driver more then the 7 does, The 7 is good as in terms of step foward in technology, but the mk5 still is a decent drive and I still prefer it over the mk6 in looks and driver feel.

Define "reward"...... I would personally be much better rewarded in a mk7  as its much more refined, better looking, more efficient, built with better materials, goes like stink and has a much better stereo.
On the flip side it's well over £30k and I'd have to finance it. Doesn't bother me as work provide me with allowance but if I only had say £8000 cash, I would love a mk5/6 Golf R or edition 30!

Rewarding as in..feedback, feel from what going on undeneath the seat of your pants. Being able to push a car on its limits and not a car thats too refined and a muted or numb feel from it.Having a Soundtrack played down its speakers in the 7R although is different,  put for the purist, im sure isnt what your looking for in a thrilling drive.
Yes the 7R is 300bhp and has the smile factor but as with all these new models, having safety features that prevent you really pushing on would really cheese me off.
Also just because somethings new doesnt make it better always..The reason they stopped with the mk5 early was because it was too complex to build and costed VW too much in terms of build and cost to produce.

[GrayMK5GTI]

Any 4WD car out of the box has numb steering and a chassis that is very "safe".

FWD is more fun and engaging, especially with a bit of lift off oversteer on a roundabout  to make a 4WD fun it needs some serious power (Hurdy's Golf R for example  )

4WD makes for a fast point to point car though

[Matthewsimone]

Rekon a mapped Dsg 7R will take your face off 

High power fwd too much hastle personally, previously owned a live mapped mk1 focus Rs (318 bhp 380ftlb) and was just pointless hence why ive left my mk5 Gti standard 

[flashp]

Rekon a mapped Dsg 7R will take your face off 

High power fwd too much hastle personally, previously owned a live mapped mk1 focus Rs (318 bhp 380ftlb) and was just pointless hence why ive left my mk5 Gti standard 

Interestingly a colleague of mine has a mk1 Focus RS and while he loves the car he hates FWD vehicles for how his car behaves. He reports understeer and torque steer as predominant issues at a confirmed 201hp. By contrast mine makes me warm inside every time I drive it on road and track and has none of these issues! 

I think you should get a drive in well sorted modified example and I reckon you might change your mind! 

I'd conclude that while a Mk1 FRS is a collectable and relatively high value vehicle they're dynamically not the greatest example of a high power FWD vehicle.

[Matthewsimone]

Rekon a mapped Dsg 7R will take your face off 

High power fwd too much hastle personally, previously owned a live mapped mk1 focus Rs (318 bhp 380ftlb) and was just pointless hence why ive left my mk5 Gti standard 

Interestingly a colleague of mine has a mk1 Focus RS and while he loves the car he hates FWD vehicles for how his car behaves. He reports understeer and torque steer as predominant issues at a confirmed 201hp. By contrast mine makes me warm inside every time I drive it on road and track and has none of these issues! 

I think you should get a drive in well sorted modified example and I reckon you might change your mind! 

I'd conclude that while a Mk1 FRS is a collectable and relatively high value vehicle they're dynamically not the greatest example of a high power FWD vehicle.

Couldn't disagree more on that one im affraid mate
My mk1 Rs was an absolute peach to drive in standard form its only when i modded it that it was ruined and made me start to not like the car etc

Mine was a low mileage near concourse example so decided to sell up while prices are good and stepped straight into the mk5 Gti as its simply a more every day car that i can use without crying everytime it gets a spot of dirt on it   
11 month old daughter was a contributing factor to the decision also 

Both the Gti and Rs are great fwd cars in standard form but the Golf is alot easier to live with every day think the Rs was around 3-4secs a lap faster on top gear tho!

[Matthewsimone]

Ps if your mate is struggling at 201bhp id suggest it has something seriously wrong or the whole car is very tired as mine never started becoming a handful until went over 300bhp
201??? Standard they were 212bhp but some reports said some were making more like 230bhp

[flashp]

Ps if your mate is struggling at 201bhp id suggest it has something seriously wrong or the whole car is very tired as mine never started becoming a handful until went over 300bhp
201??? Standard they were 212bhp but some reports said some were making more like 230bhp

That maybe the case then. He seems to be certain that all is well with his and he dislikes the way it drives intensely.

I'm not surprised that the RS was quicker lapping in stock trim. The GTI's are a 'softer' car I think when standard. They appeal to different owner/drivers.

[dansmith180]

As some have already said I believe that 4WD is too "safe" to be as much fun as a well sorted FWD (decent tyres and suspension ect) unless you're running serious power. My friend has a 290bhp MK5 R32 and my GTI is running 260bhp and having driven both I much prefer mine, with that sort of power you really have to push to get any give in the 4WD whereas the FWD is a hoot, you actually have to put some work in to make it behave sometimes but it rewards you soo much.

Its all a personal preference thing, I'm a 20 year old man so testosterone makes all my decisions for me. But more sensible and family orientated people will probably prefer the comfort of the 4WD. Its like manual vs DSG its down to preference neither can be defined as better because it's relative to what you want from your car.

[Tortaruga]

testosterone makes all my decisions for me.

That will continue well past your twenties!

[dansmith180]

testosterone makes all my decisions for me.

That will continue well past your twenties!

[byron]

Is it wrong that am pretty pleased with myself for starting a good little post??  Haha

[Biano44]

Still think the 5 rewards the driver more then the 7 does, The 7 is good as in terms of step foward in technology, but the mk5 still is a decent drive and I still prefer it over the mk6 in looks and driver feel.

Define "reward"...... I would personally be much better rewarded in a mk7  as its much more refined, better looking, more efficient, built with better materials, goes like stink and has a much better stereo.
On the flip side it's well over £30k and I'd have to finance it. Doesn't bother me as work provide me with allowance but if I only had say £8000 cash, I would love a mk5/6 Golf R or edition 30!

Rewarding as in..feedback, feel from what going on undeneath the seat of your pants. Being able to push a car on its limits and not a car thats too refined and a muted or numb feel from it.Having a Soundtrack played down its speakers in the 7R although is different,  put for the purist, im sure isnt what your looking for in a thrilling drive.
Yes the 7R is 300bhp and has the smile factor but as with all these new models, having safety features that prevent you really pushing on would really cheese me off.
Also just because somethings new doesnt make it better always..The reason they stopped with the mk5 early was because it was too complex to build and costed VW too much in terms of build and cost to produce.

Yeah, I get what you're saying.....I was just trying to say that different people will find different things to be a rewarding!!

[byron]

Either way gonna make my mind up tomorrow, have a look
Around see if anything really catches my eye, of not it's staying!

[byron]

Either way gonna make my mind up tomorrow, have a look
Around see if anything really catches my eye, of not it's staying!

[rich83]

Still think the 5 rewards the driver more then the 7 does, The 7 is good as in terms of step foward in technology, but the mk5 still is a decent drive and I still prefer it over the mk6 in looks and driver feel.

Define "reward"...... I would personally be much better rewarded in a mk7  as its much more refined, better looking, more efficient, built with better materials, goes like stink and has a much better stereo.
On the flip side it's well over £30k and I'd have to finance it. Doesn't bother me as work provide me with allowance but if I only had say £8000 cash, I would love a mk5/6 Golf R or edition 30!

Rewarding as in..feedback, feel from what going on undeneath the seat of your pants. Being able to push a car on its limits and not a car thats too refined and a muted or numb feel from it.Having a Soundtrack played down its speakers in the 7R although is different,  put for the purist, im sure isnt what your looking for in a thrilling drive.
Yes the 7R is 300bhp and has the smile factor but as with all these new models, having safety features that prevent you really pushing on would really cheese me off.
Also just because somethings new doesnt make it better always..The reason they stopped with the mk5 early was because it was too complex to build and costed VW too much in terms of build and cost to produce.

Arguably that would only really count when wraggin' the tits off it around a track.

Id take a golf7R in a heartbeat. Its a class ahead of the mk5.