Just fitted a new style cluster into a 2007 Golf GT

[ady-uk]

Will have to bump it up. Need some help.
Hello Ed . Bought staff off u on eBay and then I found u on gti forum, that u retrofitting white/colour clocks to mk5 platform. The question I have for u now is what would I need to do it on mine golf 2004 gt tdi 2.0 ?
Know the abs pump, clocks and adapter, what I've already bought. Clocks are 5M0920970BX and the abs pump/module is 1K0614117S - PUMP 1K0907379AK - MODULE. Have the gateway changed already for 7no AM. Will the abs pump straight fit or is the plug different pinout and the pipes have different ends? That's what I was told or can I just change the module on the old pump. Car has ESP button in it. Is it doable at all ?
Cheers Seb

If changing to a much later ABS pump, in 2004 golf, you may need to change from gen1 to later (gen3) steering rack also......

[DeWet]

Which MK70 ABS controller would be best to work with a white cluster? I seen part numbers for the MK60 modules but not a MK70.

My car had a MK70 ABS unit consiting of a 1K0 907 379 P ABS controller with 1K0 614 117 H ABS module.

Coding was 0017025

(No TPMS and standard suspension)

I tried replacing with a unit from a Caddy but the brake lines was different so I ended up putting the Caddy controller (1K0 907 379 AF) onto my ABS module but couldnt get the coding correct.

On my cluster, both ABS and ASR lights are on

Current Coding is 16641 (it didnt want to accept 0017025 even if the values from 404 Not Found) adds up to that)

and error code is

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

003 - Mechanical Failure

Can anyone help me out?

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[DeWet]

Hi @Eddie-NL , sorry for re bumping this thread.

I have found this version of the color clocks (5n0920882c) which is 2012+. Will it work with any of the 2009+ ASR only ABS pump that you posted earlier in this thread? Right now I have "1K0 907 379 P" installed on my car, which I know it won't work

Works ok:
1K0 907 379 Q
1K0 907 379 AA
1K0 907 379 AC
1K0 907 379 AF (non ESP Caddy)

 The reason I am asking you this, it's because I may have an opportunity to upgrade only the ABS pump real cheaper than doing the ESP retrofit to my car 

Did you ever work this out stonecold?

I tried replacing my P controller with an AF from a Caddy but now cant get it coded with the ABS and ASR lights burning on my cluster

[Eddie-NL]

Which MK70 ABS controller would be best to work with a white cluster? I seen part numbers for the MK60 modules but not a MK70.

My car had a MK70 ABS unit consiting of a 1K0 907 379 P ABS controller with 1K0 614 117 H ABS module.

Coding was 0017025

(No TPMS and standard suspension)

I tried replacing with a unit from a Caddy but the brake lines was different so I ended up putting the Caddy controller (1K0 907 379 AF) onto my ABS module but couldnt get the coding correct.

On my cluster, both ABS and ASR lights are on

Current Coding is 16641 (it didnt want to accept 0017025 even if the values from 404 Not Found) adds up to that)

and error code is

01044 - Control Module Incorrectly Coded

003 - Mechanical Failure

Can anyone help me out?

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Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15

[DeWet]

Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15

Great thanks Eddie.....so just to make sure, the AF controller from the caddy is ok and will work when I just move the  pin you mentioned? (Havent looked yet but its not 2 wires to swap, just 1 to move right?)

Then the coding in VCDS will work?

[DeWet]

Your issue is due to wiring

Change the wire from pin 25 to pin 15

Eddie, I just managed to have a look at the wiring on my car and there doesnt seem to be a wire in 25.
Not sure if its just a bit hidden but I first wanted to look before I strip the battery box out to get more access.

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[nujo]

DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?

[Eddie-NL]

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

[Andy]

good to see you on here Ed

[DeWet]

DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?

Nope Nujo, still driving around with the ABS lights on my new cluster. Just to check, do you also have the P controller and the original dont work with the white cluster?
My back up plan was to put my old controller back and hope for the best.

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[DeWet]

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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[nujo]

DeWet i'm in the same situation as you described. Did you managed to solve that problem?

Nope Nujo, still driving around with the ABS lights on my new cluster. Just to check, do you also have the P controller and the original dont work with the white cluster?
My back up plan was to put my old controller back and hope for the best.

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Yes it was P controller and it doesn't work with white cluster.

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

So Eddie-NL you are saying what we need to put jumper between pin 15 and 25 inside ABS module control unit? Pins 15 and 25 on the ABS plug  are empty and non off other wires from the plug are going to the pins with those numbers.

[Eddie-NL]

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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Take the plastic backing off the plug so you can see the wires

there is a wire from one pin to another

that has to be moved

[DeWet]

look at the wiring on the other side

the loop is in the wrong place, that is why you have the mechanical failure

you should be bale to tweak the coding

Thanks for the reply Eddie.
When you say wiring on the other side, are you saying I must look on yhe controller side as in open the controller and check which pins are in use on the electronics board?

Im not sure what the loop is you are refering too......Im not too knowledgeable when it co es to the electronic parts of the  mods I do to my car.

Again thanks for the help and info

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Take the plastic backing off the plug so you can see the wires

there is a wire from one pin to another

that has to be moved

Thanks mate. We had a look at the wiring diagrams and it seems to be pin 19 that needs to go to 17.

I will give it a go this weekend.

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[DeWet]

For everyone who has the MK70 ABS module in their Golf Mk5s (usually with controller ending in P), the AF version of the controller works perfectly for an upgrade to a white cluster.

All thats needed is to move th loop wire's pin 19 to pin 17.

Thanks to Eddie-NL that tipped us off on this fact. Following the wiring diagrams on ErWin showed which wire to move.

The black cap clips off by using a thin flat screwdriver to get under the 2 clip positions on each side. Just cut off the cable tie that goes around the wiring and reolace afterwards.
The pink sliding clip on the bottom picture allows you to pull the wire from the connector and I used a sewing needle to pull the white cap from the empty pin 17.

After this I cleared the error code and just programmed it again with the code I previously coded after replacing the controller.



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