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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2014, 07:39:05 pm »

The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
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We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !

It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .

I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30  :sad1:
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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2014, 07:47:44 pm »
You could always consider a Pirelli Edition for that extra exclusivity
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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2014, 08:17:43 pm »

The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04

We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !

It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .

I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30  :sad1:
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But for me a boggo standard kind of chap the extra power when mapped etc doesn,t interest me at all so in back to back comparison of a ed30 or Gti its just not worth the extra hence why I bought a sorted minty 2008 Gti!

Ed30 is not special enough, power very similar etc!
Now look at different type model of car for example focus St vs focus Rs one is a absolute animal compared to the other where as with the Gti and ed30 its just not the case!

Why didn't vw give the ed30 a decent limited slip diff to try tame the power at front wheels for a start off

Mk6 Golf R be my choice mate as fwd is shire with anything over 200bhp especially with the lack of decent didd
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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2014, 09:15:32 pm »
ED 30 all day long pal couldn't fault my old one at all, yes they are slightly dated but tuning potential and looks outweigh the mk6. Unless it's the Mk6R of course, if you could stretch your budget a little more they are great cars.

I feel the mk6 gti just doesn't look special enough.

Could say the same of the 6R? The cooking models have a similar front end.

I like both, initially when the new Golf is released I'm unsure of the changes. Each release has grown on me.

ED35 would bring a blend of refreshed styling and the well proven TFSI powertrain. Unfortunately the used prices conflict with the MK7, I wouldn't put that sort of money on a 2005 chassis design which gives the ED30 much better value if you plan on tuning.

Pirelli is a good shout, not a fan of the Tartan in ED30.
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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #34 on: November 11, 2014, 10:36:50 pm »

The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04

We had a GTI and an ED30 in our home for about a year . As you say there isn't much difference , driven back to back normally there is no difference . Drive them with a bit more spirit and there is a difference , £2-£3k difference for the same spec/year and is it worth it ? For a small outlay a Bluefin remap (£350) gives you virtually 300bhp so then for £2350 - £3350 extra you get a totally different animal and a car that really puts a smile on your face . Then get back in the GTI and say you'd rather have that !

It really is how you want to drive your car that will dictate what you buy . I took off the Bluefin as i didn't use the bhp but i put it back on , it was as if mentally i was in a car with a different engine , i had the power if i wanted it and that made me feel better .

I now drive a Freelander 2 , tow bar , diesel , 4x4 , i miss the ED30  :sad1:
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Forget tuning you can't compare a stock car to a tuned one at all, not everyone tunes so to them people the extra cost for so little extra would be a waste IMHO. As above it's not special enough 250+bhp , bigger brakes and a diff would of made it more tasty and more of a real 'special' edition then I might of had one sitting on the drive.



« Last Edit: November 12, 2014, 06:31:05 pm by Chris92 »

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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #35 on: November 11, 2014, 10:52:19 pm »


X2 neither do I, plus they seem to out number the normal gti's on here aka common as muck  :wink:

The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04
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And not forgetting the forged pistons, stronger rod bolts & pins, bigger injectors, recirc valve relocated, improved main bearing caps and pedestals. And of course there's the residual value.

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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #36 on: November 11, 2014, 10:56:04 pm »


X2 neither do I, plus they seem to out number the normal gti's on here aka common as muck  :wink:

The way people talk of the eddy is as if it's a total different car altogether, to me it's just some extra badges and alloys. Don't get me wrong I like them but They are no more special than a normal gti IMHO minus the k04

And not forgetting the forged pistons, stronger rod bolts & pins, bigger injectors, recirc valve relocated, improved main bearing caps and pedestals. And of course there's the residual value.
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Yes a de tuned s3 engine, ko4 lump I should of wrote also you don't need residual valve when you pay less to start with.
« Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 10:57:51 pm by Chris92 »

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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #37 on: November 11, 2014, 11:13:15 pm »
It's all about percentage of purchase cost retained after 'x' years rather than initial expenditure. It's likely (but not a given) that ltd edition models will do better in the long term.

None of this 'spec' discussion should be confused with a decision to buy which may privately be one of economics.
When I say economics I don't mean who can afford what, but rather what they have chosen to afford. They're not the same  :wink: Just before anyone goes off on one  :signLOL:

I don't mean this to be inflammatory, just wanted to say that IMO the Ed 30 is significantly different but at the same time I accept that the extra £'s in purchase price may seem like a poor return for some...which is also fine.

« Last Edit: November 11, 2014, 11:31:10 pm by flashp »

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Re: MK6 GTi vs MK5 Edition 30
« Reply #38 on: November 12, 2014, 08:12:35 pm »
Wowsers, an overwhelming vote for the Ed 30!!!!! I've found one I like the look of, but it's about 250 miles away grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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If you drive towards the location of the ED30 the distance will be less and less until you get there and there it will be waiting for you  :happy2:

I took a one way train journey from the midlands to Edinburgh to get the right one :-)