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MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« on: December 07, 2014, 09:44:03 am »
As title says.. Literally lost all boost/power, its like driving an N/A car.

Car has been mapped in the past by a previous owner, there is some sort of oil leak around the turbo area. Had a look in the service history and it says the turbo was replaced about 10k ago.. Possible it wasnt done properly?

Pulled into a car park switched it off, came back out and realised i had no power!

Any ideas guys?? (Will start a thread on my car, got it last weekend)

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2014, 09:50:26 am »
You need to read the fault codes mate  :happy2:

Check the turbo and all the boost pipes over, turbo could have been starved of oil and failed maybe?
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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2014, 10:58:22 am »
You need to read the fault codes mate  :happy2:

Check the turbo and all the boost pipes over, turbo could have been starved of oil and failed maybe?

When on idle it is erratic and under load its a whooshing sound.. Very air'y

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2014, 11:33:41 am »
As above, scan for fault codes and check the pipework. May be the connection pipe from the intercooler to the turbo has come away due to a failed fitting which is common on these engines.

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2014, 04:05:24 pm »
As above, scan for fault codes and check the pipework. May be the connection pipe from the intercooler to the turbo has come away due to a failed fitting which is common on these engines.

Done a scan today and nothing came up apart from p0036 (heater control oxygen sensor control circuit) which im guessing is from the fact its been de-catted?

Also got a OBD-2 wifi adaptor and the appropriate app and got a live reading.. Boost seems low.. This was gunning it in 3rd , as you can see there is a massice drop in power and torque aswel.



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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2014, 04:13:00 pm »
It is possible you need to replace the B1-S2 Oxy sensor. But the code could be resulting from something else undetected...but not likely. It sounds like it has gone into safe-mode due to boost plumbing leakage or cam follower failure or something. But you should have a more definite error code other than just P0036. Save this link to check any future codes...just enter the code in the search box: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16420/P0036/000054
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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2014, 04:24:18 pm »
It is possible you need to replace the B1-S2 Oxy sensor. But the code could be resulting from something else undetected...but not likely. It sounds like it has gone into safe-mode due to boost plumbing leakage or cam follower failure or something. But you should have a more definite error code other than just P0036. Save this link to check any future codes...just enter the code in the search box: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16420/P0036/000054

honestly its just like driving a 1.6 or something now.. terrible! That is the only code flagging up at the min, the cam follower failure sounds bad.. i ordered a cam follower should be here this week ( part number - 06D109309C ).

is it safe to drive? or will it do more damage?

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2014, 05:24:12 pm »
As above, scan for fault codes and check the pipework. May be the connection pipe from the intercooler to the turbo has come away due to a failed fitting which is common on these engines.

Done a scan today and nothing came up apart from p0036 (heater control oxygen sensor control circuit) which im guessing is from the fact its been de-catted?

Also got a OBD-2 wifi adaptor and the appropriate app and got a live reading.. Boost seems low.. This was gunning it in 3rd , as you can see there is a massice drop in power and torque aswel.




Out of interest, which adapter are you using? Considering one myself.

Good luck with sorting the issue!

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2014, 05:25:35 pm »
Check your pipes. Sounds like a boost leak

Irratic idle and whoosh of air escaping under boost
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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2014, 05:33:40 pm »
As above, scan for fault codes and check the pipework. May be the connection pipe from the intercooler to the turbo has come away due to a failed fitting which is common on these engines.

Done a scan today and nothing came up apart from p0036 (heater control oxygen sensor control circuit) which im guessing is from the fact its been de-catted?

Also got a OBD-2 wifi adaptor and the appropriate app and got a live reading.. Boost seems low.. This was gunning it in 3rd , as you can see there is a massice drop in power and torque aswel.




Out of interest, which adapter are you using? Considering one myself.

Good luck with sorting the issue!

Dave

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similar to that mate.. the app is called dashcommand

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2014, 05:34:49 pm »
Check your pipes. Sounds like a boost leak

Irratic idle and whoosh of air escaping under boost

going to get a VW specialist to have a look this week.. aslong as i can drive it safely

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2014, 05:40:49 pm »
As above, scan for fault codes and check the pipework. May be the connection pipe from the intercooler to the turbo has come away due to a failed fitting which is common on these engines.

Done a scan today and nothing came up apart from p0036 (heater control oxygen sensor control circuit) which im guessing is from the fact its been de-catted?

Also got a OBD-2 wifi adaptor and the appropriate app and got a live reading.. Boost seems low.. This was gunning it in 3rd , as you can see there is a massice drop in power and torque aswel.




Out of interest, which adapter are you using? Considering one myself.

Good luck with sorting the issue!

Dave

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/OBD2-Car-Fault-Code-Reader-Scanner-TOOL-for-iPhone-ipad-iPod-WIFI-OBD-USB-UK-/331223652052?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4d1e77d6d4

similar to that mate.. the app is called dashcommand

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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2014, 06:16:59 pm »
I was always told you cant read boost on the Gti through the Obd port!
I have a scangauge and it just reads 0 whenever ive tried it!
Also a cant see the bhp/torque being anywhere near accurate surely?
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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2014, 06:39:26 pm »
Check your Diverter valve too
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Re: MK5 Gti lost all power/boost
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 08:53:25 am »
It is possible you need to replace the B1-S2 Oxy sensor. But the code could be resulting from something else undetected...but not likely. It sounds like it has gone into safe-mode due to boost plumbing leakage or cam follower failure or something. But you should have a more definite error code other than just P0036. Save this link to check any future codes...just enter the code in the search box: http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/16420/P0036/000054

honestly its just like driving a 1.6 or something now.. terrible! That is the only code flagging up at the min, the cam follower failure sounds bad.. i ordered a cam follower should be here this week ( part number - 06D109309C ).

is it safe to drive? or will it do more damage?
If it is the cam follower...replace as quickly as possible.
If you do replace quickly...you have a chance to save the intake cam, but not likely going to save the hpfp. But this would only be a concern if your code reader isn't reading all of the codes because a cam follower failure would definitely pop a code. I would think to focus on the O2 sensor after you check the follower. Is your hpfp banjo or bamboo?
I have some DIY vids that may help:
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