3 Way Speaker Upgrade with AMP

[dazza]

I thought i would be happy with an RNS 510 and sub but i guess not. Even with the bass set to <0 on the stock speakers there is distortion.

I'm looking for some 3 ways that don't require modification.
What are the options??

Focal 165 A3
Hertz HSK163
FOCAL 165VR3 POLYGLASS VR3

What i have at the moment
JL Audio JX500/1D Monoblock Class D Amplifier
JL Audio 10W0V3 10 Inch Sub

[xjay1337]

I have the Hertz ESK163.L
Very very high quality, great sound quality.
Only issue is fitting the mids in the fronts, it's a big pain in the arse to get them to mount up as the doorcard gets in the way. It does fit on but it took us like an hour per doorcard just to connect them back down.
For a while,  didn't even have the mids in and it still sounded much better than the stock 3 way setup.
Just ensure you have the car sound deadened or all your extra audio punch will be wasted.

[dazza]

Do the hertz ones need any special mounts etc??

What amp are you using?

[xjay1337]

As with any aftermarket speaker you need the large 16cm adaptor or you can make your own with some wood.
If you buy the Connects2 ones they will need trimming.

They were not being powered from an amp, just the pioneer HU.

When we re-do it in my Scirocco I will have an MTX mono amp for the sub and a Hertz 4ch for the speakers as I bought another set of Hertz components for the rear as well

[dazza]

Thanks for your help Jay.

I think i will just switch out the fronts first. Unless i can fit a LOC/amp under the wifes seat.
Start on a little boot build at a later date.

Its all very confusing as usual.
I suppose most of these will sound much better than stock. Just which one to choose?

Also seen Rainbow IQ 320.25 @ £395 this is a bit more plug and play?

[xjay1337]

Yeah, I only did the fronts in my Golf :)

Does show up how poor the rear speakers are comparitively to the uprated front ones.
I'd recommend sticking with one brand for front and rear, just makes more sense.
For my hertz one you just trim the tweeter covers on the car to fit the hertz tweeters in straight away.
the larger 16 inch speakers bolt up with the adaptors.
The worst thing is trying to mount the crossover units as they're so big!! take the big covers off.

No idea really on that stuff, I am not that good with audio, only what my buddy Jairm tells me and what i've found personally.

[dazza]

What are the options for the back in a 3 door?

All i can find are the Rainbow IQ 165 CX what would the rainbows front and rear sound like??

[xjay1337]

Why specifically the Rainbows?
Any component set up will work.
believe the rear doors are larger 16cm speaker and tweeter unit.
at least that's what i have for my scirococ!!! Haha.

[dazza]

The rainbows are plug and play also have the correct connectors supposedly.

I know others will work just struggling to find what fits easily and works well. Plus i have no idea about this stuff.

A lot of people have installed all of the below in the front but not much info regarding what people have used in the back with these.

Focal 165 A3
Hertz HSK163
FOCAL 165VR3 POLYGLASS VR3

[Shoduchi]

I have a friend who installed a 2 way speaker kit from Hertz in the back with a 3 way speaker kit from Hertz also in the front. He has a Golf with 3 doors but for what I understood you can fit the same kit for either 3 doors or 5 doors.

I'd look for the best kit from Hertz you'd be willing to buy for all your speakers.

Since I don't think I'll need an amp he recommended me for the front the Hertz ESK163L.5 - Energy Line - 3 Way 16.5cm 6.5" Car Components Speakers 250W. You can get them from ebay for ~£181.74 + shipping cost: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171429003544.

I hope I was helpful because I know near to nothing about this stuff.

[dazza]

Thanks for your help guys this is what i'm thinking.

ESK163L 3-WAY - FRONT

ESK165L 2-WAY SYSTEM Rear
or save my self a bit of time and use these ECX165 2-WAY COAXIAL

4 of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/Phonocar-913-Loudspeaker-Adaptors-Volkswagen/dp/B0067TGH6Y/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1418289782&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=165mm+Speaker+Adaptor+golf

JL AUDIO JX360/4
This amp can accept speaker level inputs but thinking a LOC would be better??

LOC
AudioControl LC6i
AudioControl DQ61

[xjay1337]

Some wiring work will need to be done if you fit the ESK163L speakers but nothing major. Only splitting the wires down to the crossover unit and then running the wires to the speakers.
OK so it's a bit of a pain in the butt but the extra sound quality is worth it over older OEM wiring.

You will need 4 of the ring adaptors

[dazza]

With the rears i may just run new wires as it should be easy with a two door. Would like to do the front also but it seems a pita.

[dazza]

@Shoduchi whats the difference between the ESK163L and ESK163L.5

[Shoduchi]

@Shoduchi whats the difference between the ESK163L and ESK163L.5

In Hertz official page there are no ESK163L, just ESK163L.5 that is a 3 way system.

Looking at ESK165.5 and ESK165L.5, that are 2 way systems, the L means a better low frequency response, I think.