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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #30 on: November 19, 2009, 09:13:09 pm »

Thing is though the evo has a better chassis and drivetrain. Im a VAG boy down to my socks, but they are just too tempermental.


I cant comment on the Cupra but the Mk 5's have been pretty much bullet proof so far. Most of the ED 30 boys are adding at least 100 BHP and the only problems have been the DV valve and the odd clutch.  :happy2:

5 grands worth of upgrades, gets you a very capable well sorted motor.  :happy2:

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #31 on: November 19, 2009, 09:21:53 pm »
My mate had the evo x 300. I drove it a while back power was ok but the handling was sublime. interior was p!ss poor though.

faster car or not id still have mine everytime. believe it or not he has sice traded in his evo for a facelift focus ST had it remapped and rates it as a better car(not faster) just a better car.

I couldnt o to a non vag car now, everytime i get in another manufacturer all i can see id the interiors are not as nice and feel cheaper.

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #32 on: November 19, 2009, 10:11:40 pm »
jase, just keeep it, once we sort out this issue and do a few more things you will be back in love with the cupra again trust me..

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.


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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #33 on: November 19, 2009, 10:27:19 pm »
Thing is though the evo has a better chassis and drivetrain. Im a VAG boy down to my socks, but they are just too tempermental.

Cant say I have ever had issues.. But guess I may have just been lucky..

I would argue the chassis side.. The Supercopa Cup cars are proof that when fitted with proper dampers its an absolute peach and for the drivetrain the Evo's blow transfer cases like there going out of fashion once there running decent power

Well my gripes with the 2.0TFSI is the fuel pump issues, cam follower issues, pcv issues, valve spring issues, coil pack issues and im gonna have to trade it in for something 4wd eventually anyway as I have ambitions of having a car around 500hp. The cupra was always meant to have been a stop gap car till I could afford to insure a evo or similiar, and once im 21 I can pretty much insure anything.

jase, just keeep it, once we sort out this issue and do a few more things you will be back in love with the cupra again trust me..

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.



That is true, just two days ago or so I was having some fun tearing up the blacktop and I said out loud "I love this car" lol. The flat spot and intermittent limp mode stuff though depresses me. Its on my mind 24/7. I think about it when I go to sleep at night, when I wake up, when Im at work. Surely its not healthy  :signLOL:

Reckon mick would be able to get new valves on our motors? Might be hard if the car doesnt have the flat spot without the map.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2009, 10:30:07 pm by Poverty »

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #34 on: November 19, 2009, 10:42:57 pm »
Pov, you are a panzy! Try driving an Italian turbo charged car for any length of time. That is when you have issues. At least VAG's will have TSB's to tell you what the issue is. Cuprak1 will testify to that.

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #35 on: November 19, 2009, 10:58:31 pm »
Pov, you are a panzy! Try driving an Italian turbo charged car for any length of time. That is when you have issues. At least VAG's will have TSB's to tell you what the issue is. Cuprak1 will testify to that.

Yeah but I know better than to have a Fix it again tony in the first place  :signLOL:

Plus with the stuff I get up to the last thing I need is a unexpected limp mode period   :rolleye:

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2009, 12:05:17 am »
i need to get my stage 2+ sorted and see if the flat spot is still there

come end of nov if ur car makes it to seat hopefully we will have a solution man

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2009, 04:59:20 pm »

Revo....I dont think you guys are being fully transparent with us on some things  :rolleye:

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2009, 08:56:21 pm »
Evo will edge things especially in the wet however in the dry a well set up MK5 or Cupra will be hard to beat.

To get a proper Evo you need to find an MR version but you will still need upgrading certain areas for track which will cost a fair whack.

With an Evo they just gulp fuel all of the time whereas at least the VAG stuff can give 30mpg+....all down to big fuelling and 4wd on the Evo.

Problem on the VAG wise is out of the box they are pretty competant on road and track but to make outstanding is bi investment
 
I've never notice any flat spots with the APR set up although it's not as punchy as my previous APR stage 3.

To make my current set up stand out will be a diff, big brakes, poly bushing , FMIC and some new Inters.....all major expense. 
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #39 on: November 20, 2009, 09:36:55 pm »

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.



dont know what your talking about tbh as my car always gives me a smile on my face  :happy2:

and poverty, insurance does you a big favour only once you hit 25, then you could probaly get an ed 30  :drinking:
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #40 on: November 20, 2009, 09:37:55 pm »
what map is that. had exactly the same when i had my bluefin stage 2+ installed. I had two of said flat spots, 4.5k and aobout 5.2-5.5k.

this new map has solved that no more flat spots :happy2:

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #41 on: November 20, 2009, 11:11:39 pm »

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.



dont know what your talking about tbh as my car always gives me a smile on my face  :happy2:

and poverty, insurance does you a big favour only once you hit 25, then you could probaly get an ed 30  :drinking:


must be a seat thing lol

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2009, 12:41:17 am »
Evo will edge things especially in the wet however in the dry a well set up MK5 or Cupra will be hard to beat.

To get a proper Evo you need to find an MR version but you will still need upgrading certain areas for track which will cost a fair whack.

With an Evo they just gulp fuel all of the time whereas at least the VAG stuff can give 30mpg+....all down to big fuelling and 4wd on the Evo.

Problem on the VAG wise is out of the box they are pretty competant on road and track but to make outstanding is bi investment
 
I've never notice any flat spots with the APR set up although it's not as punchy as my previous APR stage 3.

To make my current set up stand out will be a diff, big brakes, poly bushing , FMIC and some new Inters.....all major expense. 

Still not sure what Im gonna do. First priority is to get the little niggles on the cupra sorted and go from there.

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.



dont know what your talking about tbh as my car always gives me a smile on my face  :happy2:

and poverty, insurance does you a big favour only once you hit 25, then you could probaly get an ed 30  :drinking:


Am I missing a SEAT vs VW joke here?   :chicken:

Done some quotes on the cupra for once im 21 and the premium will half from what Im paying now, and that was just looking on confused.com, never mind the specialists.

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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2009, 08:35:36 pm »

i have my days when i think, fuk it this car is sh1t but then other days it puts a smile on my face.



dont know what your talking about tbh as my car always gives me a smile on my face  :happy2:

and poverty, insurance does you a big favour only once you hit 25, then you could probaly get an ed 30  :drinking:


Not a bad shout on the insurance i tried to get insured on a FQ340 when i was 21 and they all might aswell as put the phone down you might save a couple of hundered i paid £1200 all mods declared and just had my renewal at £920 at 22.

And i dont have any flatspot  :happy2:
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Re: Flat spot at 5200rpm on 2.0T - Does yours do it?
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2009, 09:36:55 pm »
im gonna have to trade it in for something 4wd eventually anyway as I have ambitions of having a car around 500hp.

S3   :grin:

You'd have to spend a fair wack to get it up to 500 bhp though.