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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #150 on: March 08, 2010, 06:21:40 pm »
13.0 wow that bloody good going . i guess thats with nothing in at all just 1 seat .

now for the fastest manual car with the 28 i guess
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #151 on: March 08, 2010, 06:26:54 pm »
13.0 wow that bloody good going . i guess thats with nothing in at all just 1 seat .

now for the fastest manual car with the 28 i guess

Full interior but with race fuel / meth injection and slicks..

Oh and a short downhill american track..  :grin:
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #152 on: April 11, 2010, 07:42:59 pm »
fun day out at santa pod and a little update to my PB time 13.04 @ 112.2..



i believe I knock hurdy off 5th place   :innocent:

haha
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #153 on: April 11, 2010, 08:01:16 pm »
yep great day  :happy2:

only did one run but it was ok...



looks like i managed to knock Revo's K1 off tenth!   :innocent:



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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #154 on: April 11, 2010, 10:24:55 pm »
fun day out at santa pod and a little update to my PB time 13.04 @ 112.2..



i believe I knock hurdy off 5th place   :innocent:

haha

Well done James :happy2:

You'll be back in 5th once I get to the Pod  :innocent: :wink: :evilgrin:

Just depends on where I'll be on the list above you  :popcornsoda:
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2010, 10:27:21 pm »
Here is my best time of the day:


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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #156 on: April 11, 2010, 10:59:59 pm »
Nice one KRL.. Good to see another K04 in the 13's..  :happy2:

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #157 on: April 12, 2010, 08:50:55 am »
@ Jonny:
Methinks my car (you were driving) fractionally beat gillm's and so our 18th/19th overall positions should swop.

I need to get under 14.0 myself at some stage.


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Very consistent times, James - You doin' well buddy  :congrats: :congrats:
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #158 on: April 12, 2010, 11:43:46 am »
Was running down the 1/4 mile on sunday :) Car was pulling great :):) first time i have ever done a 1/4 mile so i think there is room for improvement. Best times i managed was a 12.7 & 12.8 the rest were low 13's.

Have a look here

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?CarNumber=30&RunDate=20100411

12.733 @ 107.7 - MANUAL - OEM K04 - REVO S2+ - ROAD TYRE - AUDI S3 - David_Phillips95

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #159 on: April 12, 2010, 04:13:58 pm »
@ Robin..

Thanks for that, I have changed it around now..

@ David..

Could you remove your post from the other thread please mate  :smiley:

Everyone else..

I have now added your times and David your now the new K04 leader  :congrats:
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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #160 on: April 12, 2010, 06:51:15 pm »
@ Robin..

Thanks for that, I have changed it around now..

@ David..

Could you remove your post from the other thread please mate  :smiley:


....Thanks, Jonny.

Btw, you can lock the other thread so peeps can't post in it. Means less maintenance and relying on others. You'll have to unlock it while you update it. 

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 23, 2010, 12:33:44 am »
I was at Crail on April 11th too, and did 13.233 @ 113.60 mph.

Car is Leon Cupra 2.0T manual, Revo Stage 2+ on road tyres.

I think there should be a split for front drive and four wheel drive on the leader board as well as DSG and Manual.

When you disect the 60 foot times and terminal speeds, it is clear to see where the front drive and all wheel drive cars make their performance known. Check out the 60 foot times and terminal speeds of both cars.

Here are my times and terminal speeds.

http://www.crailraceway.co.uk/select_run.asp?RunDate=20100411&RaceID=153&CarNumber=25

And a clip inside my car on one run



And a clip of my car and Davids 12.7 S3  (above)


« Last Edit: April 23, 2010, 12:53:53 am by djhorace »

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #162 on: April 23, 2010, 03:46:18 am »
The whole point of the leader board is that its engine specific though.. So whatever car out there, be it Leon, ED30, Skoda, GTI, DSG or manual can play.. If we start narrowing it down to either 4WD or FWD then its the TTS vs. S3 in the 4WD sector and thats it.. So no where near as much competition..

Yes 4WD cars have an advantage at the start line, but a big disadvantage from the 1/8 mile to the finish..

Buy an S3 and an ED30 then you can have a shot with both..  :P

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #163 on: April 23, 2010, 07:25:48 am »
Agree with Jonny here, splitting it any more would cause too much segregation.  It is interesting to see that the battle for the top of the leaderboard is turning out to be DSG Vs AWD as both have their strengths and weaknesses.  We need to get some 2+ times for Stronic S3's now as well  :wink:
« Last Edit: April 23, 2010, 08:24:35 am by KRL »

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Re: UK 2.0 TFSI/TSI Top 20 Leader Board Discussion Thread
« Reply #164 on: April 23, 2010, 07:42:41 am »
I disagree, because of the fundamental advantage an all wheel drive car has at the start with upward of 350bhp because of traction available to it. I would say DSG and Manual are comparable than front vs AWD on the 1/4 mile. Also, when you look at "normal" tuned edition 30's and not ones with the bumper bars, interior and anything not necessary that weighs something all but removed, the times are clearly slower. 4x4 cars will eventually be the leaders once some of them decide to dump seats, spare wheels and other things that weigh any amount of weight - just wait and see  :wink:.

Why? When you consider a 1.7 second 60 foot time is available on a 4 wheel drive car, this is 0.5 seconds (approx) quicker than a good launch on front wheel drive. Comparing 60 foot and 1/4 mile times thereafter, you can see the following;

4x4 (David)
60 foot = 1.7
Calculated average speed over 60 foot = 24mph
1/4 mile = 12.7
1/4 mile terminal = 108mph

FWD (my car with similar spec)
60 foot = 2.2
Calculated average speed over 60 foot = 18mph
1/4 mile = 13.2
1/4 mile terminal = 114mph

The time taken from the 60 foot point to the end of the 1/4 mile is exactly the same despite the FWD's better terminal speed because the 4x4 car was going much faster at the 60 foot point than the FWD car was due to its ability to put down its power and get there sooner. In other words, if my maths is correct, the front drive car will only be at 40 foot when the 4x4 is at 60 foot.

The 11 seconds from the 60 foot point looks the same, but the FWD car plays catch up, but it plays catch up from behind starting from a lower speed. Therefore over the remaining 5220 feet on the 1/4 mile from the 60 foot point, the only thing the gain on the front drive car does is cancel out the defecit from the 60 foot point with regard to time :laugh:

For what its worth, Davids S3 was not stripped out. I am willing to bet if it was, he would have been a good bit quicker still, and I hope he does this sometime to prove this theory :happy2:. I do agree that it will be good to see the trick gear box and the all wheel drive work together though especially if the car is stripped  :signLOL:. I will also be interested to see how well the clutch stands up to it all :wink:

Regardless, I will be back to Crail with a few different bits and pieces within 2 months and hope to report back with a quicker time  :pomppomp:. I am aiming for 13 dead, but I doubt it will be possible.

Can you update the board with my details in the mean time please :smiley:

Ta

Al
« Last Edit: April 23, 2010, 01:52:44 pm by djhorace »