mk6 climate into 2006 mk5 gti

[downtime]

I have the mk6 clima in my ed30 but i can't reach the clima in vcds? Don't know whar's wrong? And sugestions?

Can you see it in autoscan list? Do you have an original VCDS cable? The cheap China copies sometimes do that they can't connect to a module. Shutting down vcds and detaching the cable usually helps.

Hi!
I have a genuine vcds cable!! It shows on autoscan but it says "no connection" can't be reached... Have tried to change canbus gateway to a newer but still no luck, i think this has to do with another problem i have. The audio menu in my mfd does not show up either... Mfsw buttons work but only volume to me headunit.. It has worked before...

Your radio isn't giving any errors about single wire operation possibly? Symptoms sound like the other comfort can bus wire is broken.

[Softishman]

Don't know what you mean, read here for more info (conplete vcds scan).
Were does that wire run? From gateway to? Thanks!

[downtime]

Don't know what you mean, read here for more info (conplete vcds scan).
Were does that wire run? From gateway to? Thanks!

Sorry, can't see that scan?

Yes, the car has three different can bus'. Drive train, convenience and infotainment. They all run to CAN gateway which handles the messaging between the different buses. There's a very good self study article here : http://www.volkspage.net/technik/ssp/ssp/SSP_238.pdf

The can bus is physically a twisted pair of cables. If the other cable is broked, the can bus will still operate but it will go to single wire mode which means it is not having parallel receive and transmit but instead it's receiving and transmitting asynchronously.
This could cause all sorts of symptoms. For example not being able to connect to an unit.

If you can post the full VCDS scan here it would be more helpful.

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Canbus gateway coding?
« on: May 22, 2016, 07:35:30 PM »
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Hello!
Need help with my eddy.... My msfw have stopped working with my stereo.
Short story,
Worked before i installed the mk6 clinate controll (i think i was after that i stopped working), changed the canbus gateway and coded it to match my original. The audio "meny" in my big mfd does not appear at all. The mfsw button works but i can't reach audio in mfd, volume works though.
Have a Blaupunkt Philadelphia 835 if that matters. Also have a P3 cars obd gauge. I think it has do to with coding the gateway but i am a newbie in vcds but i have borrowed vcds from a friend now... I have now installed my original gateway and still no audio in mfd.... Need help!!!

Can someone help me with long coding? What info about the car you need?
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Re: Canbus gateway coding?
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Anyone?
The new canbus gateway art number: 7N0 907 530AK
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Re: Canbus gateway coding?
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VIN:    Reg.nr: AXX607



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Installationslista Gateway:  1K0 907 530 K

00-Givare styrvinkel -- Status: OK 0000
01-Motor -- Status: OK 0000
02-Automatväxel -- Status: OK 0000
03-Bromselektronik -- Status: OK 0000
08-Klimatanläggning -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
09-Elektron. elcentral -- Status: OK 0000
15-Krockkuddar -- Status: OK 0000
16-Rattelektronik -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
17-Instrument -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
25-Startspärr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigering -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
42-Dörrel. förare -- Status: OK 0000
44-Styrservo -- Status: OK 0000
46-Komfortcentral -- Status: OK 0000
47-Ljudsystem -- Status: OK 0000
52-Dörrelektr. pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Helljusområde -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
62-Dörr vä. bak -- Status: OK 0000
72-Dörr hö bak -- Status: OK 0000

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Chassityp: 1K (1K0)
Skanna: 01 02 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 47 52 55 56 62 72
         

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7W147748   Mätarställning: 121910km

00-Givare styrvinkel -- Status: OK 0000
01-Motor -- Status: OK 0000
02-Automatväxel -- Status: OK 0000
03-Bromselektronik -- Status: OK 0000
08-Klimatanläggning -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
09-Elektron. elcentral -- Status: OK 0000
15-Krockkuddar -- Status: OK 0000
16-Rattelektronik -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
17-Instrument -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
25-Startspärr -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigering -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
42-Dörrel. förare -- Status: OK 0000
44-Styrservo -- Status: OK 0000
46-Komfortcentral -- Status: OK 0000
47-Ljudsystem -- Status: OK 0000
52-Dörrelektr. pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Helljusområde -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Felfunktion 0010
62-Dörr vä. bak -- Status: OK 0000
72-Dörr hö bak -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Adress 01: Motor        Labels: AER\06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 907 115 L    HW: 8P0 907 115 B
   Komponent: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0030 
   Revision: 5BH16---    Serienummer: VWZ7Z0F8232682
   Kodning: 040300031C070160
   Verkstad #: WSC 00191 264 15243
   VCID: 2F552DADBEB5F059C75-807A

Ingen felkod funnen.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Adress 02: Automatväxel        Labels: AER\02E-927-770.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 02E 300 044 T    HW: 02E 927 770 AE
   Komponent: GSG DSG         070 1301 
   Revision: 04507000    Serienummer: 00000611160735
   Kodning: 0000020
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 267BC889914FB111343-8073

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 03: Bromselektronik        Labels: AER\1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 907 379 AC    HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
   Komponent: ESP FRONT MK60      0101 
   Revision: 00H11001   
   Kodning: 0004738
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 73DDE1DD121D94B963D-8026

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 08: Klimatanläggning / Climate controll
Kan ej nås / could not be reached

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Adress 09: Elektron. elcentral        Labels: AER\3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 3C0 937 049 AE    HW: 3C0 937 049 AE
   Komponent: Bordnetz-SG     H52 2002 
   Revision: 00H52000    Serienummer: 00000006489249
   Kodning: EF0F8E070032151455000005140000000008330F620001
   Verkstad #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 6CEFFAA14F234B41A27-8039

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: 1K1 955 119 E  Labels: AER\1KX-955-119.CLB
   Komponent: Wischer 011206 020  0501 
   Kodning: 00038805
   Verkstad #: WSC 01287 

   Subsystem 2 - Artikelnr: 1K0 955 559 AB  Labels: AER\1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Komponent: RLS     061206 020  0105 
   Kodning: 00208933
   Verkstad #: WSC 01287 

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 15: Krockkuddar        Labels: AER\1K0-909-605.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 909 605 T    HW: 1K0 909 605 T
   Komponent: 37 AIRBAG VW8   020 2300 
   Revision: 05020000    Serienummer: 0038PD0XBLH2 
   Kodning: 0013111
   Verkstad #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 3D4907E564D912C9459-8068

   Subsystem 1 - Serienummer: 6332MSME1579003C8

   Subsystem 2 - Serienummer: 6342MSME153B353CF

   Subsystem 3 - Serienummer: 6352QSME1C561B29O

   Subsystem 4 - Serienummer: 6362QSME1B2B1845L

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 16: Rattelektronik        Labels: AER\1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 953 549 AQ    HW: 1K0 953 549 AQ
   Komponent: J0527           036 0070 
   Kodning: 0012142
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 0131BB1558A1B629611-8054

   Subsystem 1 - Artikelnr: XXXXXXXXXXX
   Komponent: E0221           002 0010

1 fel funnet:
00888 - Vindrutetorkarbrytare för intervalldrift (E22)
            014 - felaktig

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Adress 17: Instrument        Labels: AER\1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K6 920 873     HW: 1K6 920 873
   Komponent: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610 
   Revision: V0003000    Serienummer: VWZ7Z0F8232682
   Kodning: 0007103
   Verkstad #: WSC 80093 222 69422
   VCID: 6FD5EDAD7E35B059875-803A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: AER\1K0-907-530-V2.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 907 530 K    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Komponent: J533__Gateway   H04 0020 
   Revision:   H04 02    Serienummer: 131206F2001267
   Kodning: 7F3F034A07000002
   Verkstad #: WSC 45874 085 65877
   VCID: 2F552DADBEB5F059C75-807A

1 fel funnet: / 1 FAULT
01305 - Datenbus Infotainment
            004 - Ingen signal/förbindelse / NO SIGNAL
             frysta data:
                    Felstatus: 01100100
                    Felprioritet: 1
                    Felfrekvens: 1
                    Reset-räknare: 145
                    Mätarställning: 121916 km
                    Tidsindikering: 0
                    Datum: 2000.00.00
                    Tid: 11:42:51


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Adress 25: Startspärr        Labels: AER\1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 1K6 920 873     HW: 1K6 920 873
   Komponent: IMMO            VDD 1610 
   Revision: V0003000    Serienummer: VWZ7Z0F8232682
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6FD5EDAD7E35B059875-803A

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 37: Navigering /navigation
Kan ej nås / could not be reached

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Adress 42: Dörrel. förare        Labels: AER\1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 959 701 M    HW: 1K0 959 701 M
   Komponent: Tuer-SG         005 0985 
   Kodning: 0000244
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 384716F14BFB37E196F-806D

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 44: Styrservo        Labels: AER\1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Artikelnr: 1K1 909 144 L
   Komponent: EPS_ZFLS Kl.074 H07 1806 
   Verkstad #: WSC 00000 028 00001
   VCID: 345F22C15793D381BA7-8061

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 46: Komfortcentral        Labels: AER\1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 959 433 BT    HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
   Komponent:    KSG PQ35 G2  020 0203 
   Revision: 00020000    Serienummer: 00000000000000
   Kodning: 809002005103087F2D00840560084F03E0F800
   Verkstad #: WSC 01287 785 00200
   VCID: 033DB11D42BDA43973D-8056

   Subsystem 1 - Komponent:   Sounder n.mounted     

   Subsystem 2 - Komponent:       NGS n.mounted     

   Subsystem 3 - Komponent:      IRUE n.mounted     

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 47: Ljudsystem / Audio system
Kan ej nås / could not be reached

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Adress 52: Dörrelektr. pass.        Labels: AER\1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 959 702 M    HW: 1K0 959 702 M
   Komponent: Tuer-SG         005 0985 
   Kodning: 0000244
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 394113F570F12EE9691-806C

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 55: Helljusområde        Labels: AER\1T0-907-357.lbl
   Artikelnr: 1T0 907 357
   Komponent: Dynamische LWR      0003 
   Kodning: 0000003
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74DFE2C1171393817A7-8021

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 56: Radio
Kan ej nås / could noy be reached

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Adress 62: Dörr vä. bak        Labels: AER\1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 959 703 K    HW: 1K0 959 703 K
   Komponent: Tuer-SG         005 0913 
   Kodning: 0000208
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 1012551
   VCID: 384716F14BFB37E196F-806D

Ingen felkod funnen.

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Adress 72: Dörr hö bak        Labels: AER\1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Artikelnr SW: 1K0 959 704 K    HW: 1K0 959 704 K
   Komponent: Tuer-SG         005 0913 
   Kodning: 0000208
   Verkstad #: WSC 01279 785 1012551
   VCID: 394113F570F12EE9691-806C

Ingen felkod funnen.

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[Shoduchi]

This is my VCDS scan of my mk6 climatronic panel bought from Boldsport without automatic air recirculation:

Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 CJ    HW: 5K0 907 044 CJ
   Component: Climatronic   H15 0709 
   Revision: 00003001   
   Coding: 0000000002
   Shop #: WSC 12345 123 12345
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01006
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_SE36.rod
   VCID: 75E10756D4613BB6B75-8020

1 Fault Found:
13701456 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 72
                    Mileage: 58301 km
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 19:56:59

The error is due to the mk5 instrument cluster doesn't communicate with BAP protocol.

I use a 12.12.0 version VCDS cable.

[Softishman]

So you think it's the cluster that are the problem now for me? I have a newer gatewy and an adapter cable for mk6 cluster but haven't bought a mk6 R cluster yet...

[Shoduchi]

So you think it's the cluster that are the problem now for me? I have a newer gatewy and an adapter cable for mk6 cluster but haven't bought a mk6 R cluster yet...

My error isn't significant. The panel works as it should. Your panel should show in VCDS scan. The CAN gateway isn't new enough, I think. The problem might be there. You need a L or from Q to above.

[Softishman]

I have tried another gateway 7K0 907 530 AK
And it was the same problem...
I hade the audio menu in mfd before mk6 clima install...

Could it be that my new gateway is to new? It's from 2012 caddy....?!

[Softishman]

My clima panel works well and displays on my blaupunkt philadelphia 835...

[Shoduchi]

AFAIK the newer the gateway the better. The AK would be better than the K.

Not sure what's happening with your panel if it shows well in the radio screen.  Maybe the issue is due to radio? I have a RNS-510 with BAP protocol disabled, so it shows everything radio/nav related in the instrument cluster and the climatronic commands show in the radio screen. 

[Softishman]

Before mk6 clima everything worked! I could se song etc in mfd change song with steering wheel and reach clima and radio with vcds.... It looks like i have no other option then switching back to mk5 clima...

[downtime]

Before mk6 clima everything worked! I could se song etc in mfd change song with steering wheel and reach clima and radio with vcds.... It looks like i have no other option then switching back to mk5 clima...

Do you have some sort of can bus converter for your radio? You don't have the original VW radio it seems so there must be some sort of box between the radio and the can bus to decipher the can bus signals.
I'm pretty sure that there is some sort of conversion box and that is now why the clima is not working. Old clima is not commnunicating to infotainment bus as it does not show the settings on the radio display like the mk6 clima does.

[Softishman]

The stereo is vw specified (only fits vag vars) and worked without problems with mk5 clima installed! The mk6 clima shows up on stereo display and i can still change volume with mfsw but now the audio menu in mfd disappeard.... And i can't reach clima or stereo with vcds....

[Shoduchi]

The stereo is vw specified (only fits vag vars) and worked without problems with mk5 clima installed! The mk6 clima shows up on stereo display and i can still change volume with mfsw but now the audio menu in mfd disappeard.... And i can't reach clima or stereo with vcds....

Maybe there's some incompatibility issue with the mk6 climatronic panel. If you revert to the mk5 climatronic panel and all works fine again, you know what the culprit is.

[downtime]

The stereo is vw specified (only fits vag vars) and worked without problems with mk5 clima installed! The mk6 clima shows up on stereo display and i can still change volume with mfsw but now the audio menu in mfd disappeard.... And i can't reach clima or stereo with vcds....

Hmm... Have you tried taking the battery negative out and letting the car sit powerless for few minutes? I know situations where the can gateway has gone stuck and power reset has revived it.

Other thing I would check is by taking out the radio and the clima panel and checking that the connections are secure and especially on the climatronic panel that the red locking latches are in place and that there are no bent or broken wires. Just to be sure.