Coming from an Audi S3...

[cuprajake]

as I said there good for ragging about, but how often do you rag your car?

I know most of my driving is normal traffic driving 30/40mph stop start, I don't see the point of buying auto then having to down change and hold it in manual mode as its trying to go up a hill in 6th gear at 35mph

[jedi-knight83]

Must have been a really crap example of dsg. Mines never done that.


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[rdfcpete]

... after selling my 2007 S3, whilst a great car, just ultimately felt a little soulless and boring.

Did you consider or try a Haldex controller & WOT box combination before selling up? 

[GrayMK5GTI]

... after selling my 2007 S3, whilst a great car, just ultimately felt a little soulless and boring.

Did you consider or try a Haldex controller & WOT box combination before selling up? 

Haldex controller is £MEGA money.

4WD needs big power to make it as exciting as FWD. I can see why he changed

[oHUTCHYo]

... after selling my 2007 S3, whilst a great car, just ultimately felt a little soulless and boring.

Did you consider or try a Haldex controller & WOT box combination before selling up? 

Haldex controller is £MEGA money.

4WD needs big power to make it as exciting as FWD. I can see why he changed

Dead on. My 2007 Impreza STI was 370BHP, in honesty the 260BHP Astra VXR I went to felt just as "fun", that's why you see so many Imprezas/Evos running 500+BHP - people are chasing excitement, not necessarily outright speed. It took me many cars to learn two things;

I prefer turbo over naturally aspirated.
FWD and light/small chassis is typically more fun for ragging around (versus 4WD, not RWD).

All subject to opinion of course :)

[Spankiee]

gti handles so much better than vxr aswell 

[oHUTCHYo]

gti handles so much better than vxr aswell 

Oh god don't get me started, the amount of times I nearly put it in a ditch was unreal....and that was just reversing off the driveway 

[M9xxr]

Must have been a really crap example of dsg. Mines never done that.


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Agreed, i love the dsg, does best of both worlds. Can be easy and lazy or sporty and quick. I would always pick it over the manual.

[oHUTCHYo]

Few questions on DSG, forgive my naivety/stupidity....

So in sport mode in DSG, does it simply rev to the redline in each gear? At what sort of revs does it then kick down to a lower gear?

In drive mode, presumably it only revs to 4-5K before selecting next gear?

If using manual mode and flappy paddles, will it just bounce off the limiter if I don't change up or will it take over itself? What if I tap-tap-tap down from doing 70, will it drop down to second gear and blow up my engine or will it limit how low I can drop to?

Will paddles act as an override on the odd touch, I.e. Cruising at 70 then wanting to drop a cog for a quick burst?

Can you select DSG mode whilst driving or just stationery? What's stopping me hitting it in reverse when on the motorway? Presumably there's some fail safe? lol

Engine braking - does this become non existent?

Finally, how many times did you new owners nearly put yourself thought the windscreen by accidentally hitting the brake thinking it was your clutch? (Only ever drove an auto once and that was for 15mins, it was a horrendous experience for me but understand it will take time to grow accustomed)

[stealthwolf]

I can only base my reply on what I've read, and the two times I've driven a DSG (courtesy car from dealer):

So in sport mode in DSG, does it simply rev to the redline in each gear? At what sort of revs does it then kick down to a lower gear?

No. It still changes gear but later IIRC. Changes are sharper/more aggressive.

If using manual mode and flappy paddles, will it just bounce off the limiter if I don't change up

No it'll change up to protect the engine and DSG box. A DSG remap will help hold the gear.

What if I tap-tap-tap down from doing 70, will it drop down to second gear and blow up my engine or will it limit how low I can drop to?

Presumably you'll be slowing down rather than trying to drop it into second? In which case it'll be fine.

Will paddles act as an override on the odd touch, I.e. Cruising at 70 then wanting to drop a cog for a quick burst?

It'll let you do that.

Can you select DSG mode whilst driving or just stationery? What's stopping me hitting it in reverse when on the motorway? Presumably there's some fail safe? lol

I don't think you can select reverse on the paddles. You move the floor shifter to reverse.

Engine braking - does this become non existent?

No. Engine braking still applies.

Finally, how many times did you new owners nearly put yourself thought the windscreen by accidentally hitting the brake thinking it was your clutch? (Only ever drove an auto once and that was for 15mins, it was a horrendous experience for me but understand it will take time to grow accustomed)

Well I drove two DSG cars on two occasions for a total of four days and I was used to it within about five mins. Just don't move your left foot (use the foot pedal) and you'll be fine.

[usmangti]

as I said there good for ragging about, but how often do you rag your car?

I know most of my driving is normal traffic driving 30/40mph stop start, I don't see the point of buying auto then having to down change and hold it in manual mode as its trying to go up a hill in 6th gear at 35mph

Have to say on a flat road around 40mph with very little throttle, the car will go into 6th but if there is some load or the accelerator is pressed further it instantly drops down to a lower gear. I've never felt mine struggle due to a wrong gear choice in D mode.  I have to admit I do love the DSG. I prefer auto in stop start traffic which is most of my driving. On the other hand, IMO when i want to give it a good rag about part of me wants a manual to control the auto upshift a bit better on the limit. My car is completely stock, so maybe a DSG remap may help with that.

[Saintsteve]

Borrow a dsg for a week,

My car history is very similar to yours, I made the mistake of buying dsg which was a terrible drive, yes it's quick when giving it some but day to day it was a pita, always wanted to be in 6th gear

Remap the DSG and your soon change your mind  .. Full manual mode soon cures your complaint.

[cuprajake]

I agree it prob does, but you shouldn't have too

[oHUTCHYo]

Thanks for all of the great info guys, helpful bunch you are :)

[simonp]

I've gone from AWD manual to a more powerful FWD DSG car. I like the gearbox, but I'd forgotten how rubbish FWD plus big power is!