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BSH Engine Mounts Review Update 2/12/09 page 3
RedRobin:
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That's an outstanding write-up, Quality Dave - It's Quality! :notworthy:
Do you not hear any Grrrrrrrrrrr!! under hard throttle?
@ RobH:
I don't think you'll hear any extra sounds with only the lower mount fitted - That's definitely how it is with the VWR mounts. But it's the lower mount which kills the vast majority of the engine rocking and delivers the power more directly.
BSH don't appear to do a lower mount apart from the dogbone connector (not a mount) - Isn't that the mount which is responsible for most of the curing of engine rocking?
I'd be disappointed in the extreme if I fitted the BSH mounts and then found that the engine bay sounds settled down into being quieter or less of them. But I don't currently understand why the BSH mounts would make less noise than the VWR's except if the duro was softer on the BSH's.
I still don't know what soundz GTIjames hears with his VF mounts.
Regarding cost differences I reckon it's because on one hand, BSH manufacture their own in-house (correct me if I'm wrong) and have probably also cut their profits because they seem very keen to sell quantity and establish themselves. VWR on the other hand, have their mounts manufactured outside. How do VF prices compare?
I think that if I hadn't already bought VWR mounts I'd want to know what the duro differences were before deciding further. And in hindsight I'd want to drive a car fitted with each to hear what sounds are transmitted. I don't think that any of the BSH, VWR, and VF mounts are below the standard they need to be - I'm not a qualified engineer but that's how they all look to me.
QD MBE:
Robin,
The GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sound was the least of my goals. i fitted them due to the OEM variants being gash, and being forced down the road by having the Vw racing lower mount fitted due to a problem not of my doing.
The Grrrrrrrrr sound is the one part I dislike.
However the lack of transmission slop is the goal, and the BSH mounts have delivered, and I hope they continue to settle.
Janner_Sy:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on November 29, 2009, 10:58:06 pm ---Robin,
The GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sound was the least of my goals. i fitted them due to the OEM variants being gash, and being forced down the road by having the Vw racing lower mount fitted due to a problem not of my doing.
The Grrrrrrrrr sound is the one part I dislike.
However the lack of transmission slop is the goal, and the BSH mounts have delivered, and I hope they continue to settle.
--- End quote ---
must admit that should be everyones goal. i certainly dont want the car vibrating to death, but i do want a lack of slop in everything. looking forward to seeing if they do become less intrusive.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: stokeballoon on November 29, 2009, 10:58:06 pm ---Robin,
The GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR sound was the least of my goals. i fitted them due to the OEM variants being gash, and being forced down the road by having the Vw racing lower mount fitted due to a problem not of my doing.
The Grrrrrrrrr sound is the one part I dislike.
However the lack of transmission slop is the goal, and the BSH mounts have delivered, and I hope they continue to settle.
--- End quote ---
....I know that, Dave :happy2: - Your excellent review stated why you wanted them very clearly.
I am asking about the Grrrrrrrrrrrrr!! out of my own interest and also for the sake of others reading this thread who actually are interested in the sounds which engine mounts can transfer.
So, it appears you are hearing, not feeling, the grrrr with BSH mounts - Not what you wish to hear but perhaps what some others do want to hear.
Reducing/losing any transmission slop is of course a primary goal but some of us also love the sound extras as an incidental plus.
RedRobin:
--- Quote from: simonskerton on November 29, 2009, 11:10:33 pm ---
must admit that should be everyones goal. i certainly dont want the car vibrating to death, but i do want a lack of slop in everything. looking forward to seeing if they do become less intrusive.
--- End quote ---
....Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the car actually vibrates any more or any less when engine mounts are fitted - Just more of the existing sounds and minor vibrations are transferred from the engine bay to the cabin - Something which car manufacturers do all they can to eliminate in their quest to give us a softer caccoon because it's what most people prefer.
In fact, as Dave has pointed out, the likelihood of such things like exhaust mounts breaking are lessened.
To my mind, it's not a fault whether an engine mount set either amplifies or reduces engine bay sounds, but it's simply different individual's preferences.
In time Dave will doubtless report his findings on the level of sound due to his BSH mounts. Meanwhile mine continue to give me much aural satisfaction.
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