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BSH Engine Mounts Review Update 2/12/09 page 3
Top Cat:
From what i can tell these mounts are to better transfer the power down onto the road through the drive train.
I feel both the BSH and VWR will be very capable of doing this.
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Regarding cost differences I reckon it's because on one hand, BSH manufacture their own in-house (correct me if I'm wrong) and have probably also cut their profits because they seem very keen to sell quantity and establish themselves. VWR on the other hand, have their mounts manufactured outside. How do VF prices compare?
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I agree with you here Robin completely, and if they both reduce engine movement which is the reason for fitting these, then unfortunately BSH have managed to price VWR out of the market completely.
BSH = £ 180
VWR = £ 470 approx
If they both perform to a similar level then that is one hell of a hike in price to pay for a GRRRRrrrr .
And i know cost is not a concern to you Robin, but that is a no-brainer whoever you may be. :happy2:
RedRobin:
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That's absolutely right, TC. So far, I can't see how the BSH mounts won't perform every bit as well as the VWR mounts and they cost much, much less - Good for the consumer but not so good for VWR.
Thing is, that even as what you call a no-brainer, there are loads of people like me who will pay approx £300 extra for the Grrrrrrrr!! It's no different than what some people spend on the differences in car sound systems.
As it happens, I was only talking this weekend to a friend interested in engine mounts for his car and who loves the sound of mine. I told him that my VWR cost substantially more money than the BSH and his reply was "Robin, you know me, if I like something I don't care if it's expensive" (or words to that effect).
:happy2:
QD MBE:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 29, 2009, 11:57:33 pm ---^^^^
That's absolutely right, TC. So far, I can't see how the BSH mounts won't perform every bit as well as the VWR mounts and they cost much, much less - Good for the consumer but not so good for VWR.
Thing is, that even as what you call a no-brainer, there are loads of people like me who will pay approx £300 extra for the Grrrrrrrr!! It's no different than what some people spend on the differences in car sound systems.
As it happens, I was only talking this weekend to a friend interested in engine mounts for his car and who loves the sound of mine. I told him that my VWR cost substantially more money than the BSH and his reply was "Robin, you know me, if I like something I don't care if it's expensive" (or words to that effect).
:happy2:
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The BSH look far more expensive than the VWR as well. They look better finished, the anodised black looks very classy. The VWR seems to be made up from a kit of parts. it would not surprise me if the VW Racing versions are a generic mount, adapted for use in the Golf.
john_o:
to be fair TC I reckon you could get the VWR mounts for less than £470 , but still its more than double the BSH ones.
the VF alternative 2 side mounts are £300 from JKM http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsimotormounts.htm#tfsi
In design the VF/BSH look virtually identical, with central rubber 'cores'
the big thing about the VWR ones is that they appear to have far less rubber in their construction. but we would need one 'taken apart' to view its internals just to see actually how much rubber there is in there and how the surfaces are used to transmit forces.
like Robin says I would like to compare durometer rating for VF and BSH.
I reckon youre right about the 'generic' bit stokeballon as if it was the only mount you'd certainly have removed any excessive metal.
unless the huge black bar performs some function (?)
RobH:
--- Quote from: RedRobin on November 29, 2009, 06:47:48 pm ---I don't think you'll hear any extra sounds with only the lower mount fitted - That's definitely how it is with the VWR mounts. But it's the lower mount which kills the vast majority of the engine rocking and delivers the power more directly.
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You are aware im talking about the solid race mount not the fast road mounts that vwracing do right.
Herd it in Mat ed30 car and sounded mean, dont know if that was the blueflame tbe playing mind games and im pretty sure he only has the lower on fitted aswell.
Anyway aslong as it improves power delivery to the road and stops engine rocking im happy, the Grrrr is a bonus :happy2:.
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