BSH Engine Mounts Review Update 2/12/09 page 3

[QD MBE]

interested to see how to mod the std mount. is it cost effective. or an easyish job, in comparison with swapping mounts

Don't know.............  will do soon.  The mount has an oil filled bladder inside, so my aim is to slit this, clean it out and have a play...........

look forward to that.

i heard a co-agulated mixture of rhino sperm and donkey saliva  is the way forward.

look

[RedRobin]

I think the way to go would be to modify the OE mounts.  something I will look at soon.  This review is an open and honest account of my thoughts.  I have driven the VWR red car at length, and now the BSH mounts fitted to mine, and I feel they detract away from the ethos of a Golf GTI.  The understated slightly refined Golf is what it is about for me.  Just the trans play....................

I could have bought a Westfield if i wanted out and out pure attachment to the road.  I set out not to blow sunshine up the aris of the manufacturers, nor to be psychophantic in my review or posts.

....You sound as if you should have bought an Audi.

I think that there are many Mk1/2/3/4/5 GTI owners who would define the ethos of a Golf GTI somewhat differently. Sure, a Westfield or Triumph motorbike will give you pure attachment to the road but without the allround practicality of a modified GTI. But we have all said it many times before and it's a truly great thing that we each have our individual choices how to use our cars and/or how to modify them.

Incidentally, do you know which engine mounts the VWR demo car had when you drove her?

[tony_danza]

The ethos of the GTI has always been the same - MKI to MKVI:

To look as normal on Knightsbridge as it does on a pub car park. To have the admiration and respect of the 'cool' and still get the door opened by the consierge at a plush hotel without him looking down his nose at you. To be able to drop the wife off at work without making her wince and then drive home like you're about to shat your pants.

I think sometimes people convince themselves that the money they've spent on mods is always a step towards perfection. Sometimes they aren't and you make it worse. I praise Dave for trying both sides and evaluating as he sees it.

[JPC]

The ethos of the GTI has always been the same - MKI to MKVI:

To look as normal on Knightsbridge as it does on a pub car park. To have the admiration and respect of the 'cool' and still get the door opened by the consierge at a plush hotel without him looking down his nose at you. To be able to drop the wife off at work without making her wince and then drive home like you're about to shat your pants.

I think sometimes people convince themselves that the money they've spent on mods is always a step towards perfection. Sometimes they aren't and you make it worse. I praise Dave for trying both sides and evaluating as he sees it.

that was brilliant mike!

And at qd, sorry to hear the honeymoon period was over so fast, but I'm glad you've put an impartial write up of your experiences! ;)

[Hurdy]

Jay,

I think QD is quoting from the book of wisdom that is Jezza Clarkson

[QD MBE]

The ethos of the GTI has always been the same - MKI to MKVI:

To look as normal on Knightsbridge as it does on a pub car park. To have the admiration and respect of the 'cool' and still get the door opened by the consierge at a plush hotel without him looking down his nose at you. To be able to drop the wife off at work without making her wince and then drive home like you're about to shat your pants.
I think sometimes people convince themselves that the money they've spent on mods is always a step towards perfection. Sometimes they aren't and you make it worse. I praise Dave for trying both sides and evaluating as he sees it.

that was brilliant mike!

And at qd, sorry to hear the honeymoon period was over so fast, but I'm glad you've put an impartial write up of your experiences! ;)

Very True Mike.  But ETTO.

[RedRobin]

The ethos of the GTI has always been the same - MKI to MKVI:

To look as normal on Knightsbridge as it does on a pub car park. To have the admiration and respect of the 'cool' and still get the door opened by the consierge at a plush hotel without him looking down his nose at you. To be able to drop the wife off at work without making her wince and then drive home like you're about to shat your pants.

....Sounds exactly like the script from the Mk5 advertising boys mixed with Jeremy Clarkson.  

Hey, ALL sorts of people do ALL sorts of mods or NOT to their GTI's - There's no wrongs and no rights but only personal/individual preferences.

I think sometimes people convince themselves that the money they've spent on mods is always a step towards perfection. Sometimes they aren't and you make it worse. I praise Dave for trying both sides and evaluating as he sees it.

....No self convincing is needed - For some (me as just one example) the mods do result in a more 'perfect' car. But one man's meat is another man's poison, I think is how the expression goes. Long live both! [and no-one is having a go at Dave for his approach]

ETTO 

[tony_danza]

I was talking about the ethos, the car you pick up from the dealers and what you 'buy into'. What you do with it from there is your own take on it.

Jezza (and what of his quote I could remember) summed it up from its birth to date.

[RedRobin]

I was talking about the ethos, the car you pick up from the dealers and what you 'buy into'. What you do with it from there is your own take on it.

....And I was referring to it as a car with a long tradition of being modified. Hence our difference.
 

[Hurdy]

My VF engine and transmission mounts are in and I have to say that they do transmit some engine sound through into the cabin, but what a sound - I love it. Not too loud for me and enables you to "feel" the engine more without being OTT. The engine doesn't move at all now and load transmission to the wheels is immediate and crisp. The BSH mounts are virtually a carbon copy of the VF mounts I installed.

This is another great little mod and one I can recommend as long as you like the sound and the other half isn't too worried about it too.

[Phil@BSH]

If you tried to rebuild VF mounts with BSH components, your motor will sit funny  They might have similar appearences, but the similarity stops there.

What does ETTO mean?

[SteveP]

^^^ ETTO = Each to their own 

[Phil@BSH]

That makes sense. Id say TETO... but that looks funny. 

[Hurdy]

If you tried to rebuild VF mounts with BSH components, your motor will sit funny  They might have similar appearences, but the similarity stops there.

What does ETTO mean?

What are the differences Phil?

Do they use a softer or harder compound than the VF ones?

[bacillus]

afaik the BSH ones are a tad harder compound than the VFs...