Edition 30 vs R32

[irish_ram]

Hi Chaps,

I have posted another topic with links to a couple weeks of cars I am looking at buying as I am selling my MK5 TSI and wanting to upgrade.

I have a Budget of around 10k and have the mindset that if I am upgrading I want to get an Edition 30 or R32. No offence to the standard GTI as have drove one and a brilliant motor but with my budget thought I could upgrade to an Eddy or R32.

So if there are topics on comparing these then apologies but wanted some expert advice on how they differ to make my decision on which one.

I have seen a few of each around the 8-10k mark but want to make sure for the budget I have I can get a good motor.

Cheers in advance for any help

[AndyBrown]

I had this same debate when I was looking.

As much as I love the R32 it was a no brainier once I looked into it.
Edition 30 are cheaper to run (cheap is probably the wrong word lol)
Cheaper to tax
Insure
Get so much more performance with a few choice mods.

[irish_ram]

I had this same debate when I was looking.

As much as I love the R32 it was a no brainier once I looked into it.
Edition 30 are cheaper to run (cheap is probably the wrong word lol)
Cheaper to tax
Insure
Get so much more performance with a few choice mods.

Yeah in terms of cheaper to run I think the Eddy wins and I am already preparing that the Eddy will cost more to run than my current motor. But I am debating if I choose the car based on cost to run will I regret it as if I was that conscious I would get myself some low power economic Diesel haha.

Also looking for an eddy in Red or R32 in Blue which seem to be hard to come by

[th3_f15t]

Those two colour choice respectively are the most desirable colours so you'll have to wait. What about getting a Pirelli edition GTI? Same engine and performance as an ED30 but a little harder to come by, thus more exclusive.

[wombar]

There's only a few reasons to get an R32.

- Big engine in a (relatively) little car. Most things these days are turbo, and the V6 noise is lots of fun. You won't see a V6 in a little car much in the future.
- Haldex. Nice to have in the wet/snow as Ed30 will struggle to get the power down (especially if modded).

That's basically it 

Speed wise, the Ed30 is faster than the R32 (especially if modded), and tax on an R32 is around £500 (depending on reg date/transmission).

Saying that, I've got an R32 (in blue) 

[irish_ram]

Those two colour choice respectively are the most desirable colours so you'll have to wait. What about getting a Pirelli edition GTI? Same engine and performance as an ED30 but a little harder to come by, thus more exclusive.

I love golfs but have seen people mention the Pirellis and was not sure what the difference was.

Also want a DSG which is narrowing search even more

[irish_ram]

There's only a few reasons to get an R32.

- Big engine in a (relatively) little car. Most things these days are turbo, and the V6 noise is lots of fun. You won't see a V6 in a little car much in the future.
- Haldex. Nice to have in the wet/snow as Ed30 will struggle to get the power down (especially if modded).

That's basically it 

Speed wise, the Ed30 is faster than the R32 (especially if modded), and tax on an R32 is around £500 (depending on reg date/transmission).

Saying that, I've got an R32 (in blue) 

Good point but when it comes down to it you want what you want regardless of cost sometimes. Hence youhaving a blue R32 

[Matthewsimone]

I desperately wanted a 3 door R32 in blue or Grey when I originally started looking for a mk5 but after looking into it a little more it soon became apparant that the R32 doesn't have much going for it except the noise! Double the road tax, no turbo, significantly less mpg and in the real world no quicker than even a normal healthy Gti especially if stage 1 map the Gti!

I actually ended up with a normal Gti as a pose to the ed30 simply because the right minty example came along at the right time for me (very happy)

As for the pirelli edition regardless of them having the larger K04 turbo etc I personally think they don't look great at all!
Yellow stitched interior and hideous wheels are not a patch on the ed30 or even a Gti with the factory 18" Diamond monza's fitted

Go for a ed30 or better still find a fully loaded insanely low mileage normal Gti on a 2009 plate 

[irish_ram]

I desperately wanted a 3 door R32 in blue or Grey when I originally started looking for a mk5 but after looking into it a little more it soon became apparant that the R32 doesn't have much going for it except the noise! Double the road tax, no turbo, significantly less mpg and in the real world no quicker than even a normal healthy Gti especially if stage 1 map the Gti!

I actually ended up with a normal Gti as a pose to the ed30 simply because the right minty example came along at the right time for me (very happy)

As for the pirelli edition regardless of them having the larger K04 turbo etc I personally think they don't look great at all!
Yellow stitched interior and hideous wheels are not a patch on the ed30 or even a Gti with the factory 18" Diamond monza's fitted

Go for a ed30 or better still find a fully loaded insanely low mileage normal Gti on a 2009 plate 

Cheers

I think if I am honest I am wanting to move up to an ED30 because it is a limited edition and would just feel better. Thinking of an R32 mainly because again it is something different and looks different and likely would not mod it at all as opposed to the ED30 which Iwould start modding.

I may look at the GTI as could spend less and get a top spec car or see what 10k would get me for a GTI

[Redemption]

I originally wanted an ED30 or Pirelli DSG but missed out on a couple of crackers so turned my attention to R32's and ended up with one. Whilst not a match for a mapped ED30/Pirelli it's not exactly slow and goes quite well (and sounds great when doing so!). Fuel consumption only becomes an issue if you drive with your right foot welded to the floor or are permanently stuck in traffic around town. The R32's engine is very responsive and has quite a linear power delivery which can give the impression you're not going that quickly until you glance at the speedo. The other major advantage is 4WD so it's a case of grip and go, wet or dry.

Probably down to the extra weight but I found mine more solid than the ED30's I looked at. My bonnet is nice and weighty and even the rear boot carpet seems weightier than the equivalent GTI's (although it could just have been the ones I looked at). There's something about an R32 that'll either make you buy one instantly or leave you wondering what the fuss is about.

Downside's are high road tax, potentially very big bills if they go wrong and regular visits to a fuel station if you drive 'enthusiastically' all the time listening to the engine noise and exhaust note.

[Shoduchi]

For speed in the dry the Eddie, for speed in the wet/snow the R32 (or an Eddie with an Haldex retrofitted).

I think that the Eddie is better value for the money.

[irish_ram]

I have had a look at some standard GTI's, Eddys and R32's on Autotrader and definately have eliminated a standard GTI as there are some good condition motors for 10k around.

Have seen the below on Autotrader which gives me a bit if idea of what you get for your money in each Model

R32's

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201407035520432/sort/pricedesc/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/transmission/automatic/price-to/10000/channel/cars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/body-type/hatchback/usedcars/quantity-of-doors/3/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/ng229wl/radius/1501/page/1/price-from/5000/quicksearch/true/make/volkswagen/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/golf?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201411128931186/sort/pricedesc/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/transmission/automatic/price-to/10000/channel/cars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/body-type/hatchback/usedcars/quantity-of-doors/3/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/ng229wl/radius/1501/page/1/price-from/5000/quicksearch/true/make/volkswagen/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/golf?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503101596543/sort/pricedesc/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/transmission/automatic/price-to/10000/channel/cars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/body-type/hatchback/usedcars/quantity-of-doors/3/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/ng229wl/radius/1501/page/1/price-from/5000/quicksearch/true/make/volkswagen/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/golf?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503141716074/sort/pricedesc/postcode/ng229wl/page/2/seller-type/trade_adverts/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-to/10000/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/model/golf/quicksearch/true/quantity-of-doors/3/body-type/hatchback/radius/1501/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/transmission/automatic/price-from/5000/channel/cars/make/volkswagen/usedcars?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503252061827/sort/pricedesc/postcode/ng229wl/page/2/seller-type/trade_adverts/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-to/10000/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/model/golf/quicksearch/true/quantity-of-doors/3/body-type/hatchback/radius/1501/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/transmission/automatic/price-from/5000/channel/cars/make/volkswagen/usedcars?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201501069976271/sort/pricedesc/postcode/ng229wl/page/2/seller-type/trade_adverts/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-to/10000/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/model/golf/quicksearch/true/quantity-of-doors/3/body-type/hatchback/radius/1501/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/transmission/automatic/price-from/5000/channel/cars/make/volkswagen/usedcars?logcode=p

Edition 30's

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503161788299/sort/pricedesc/maximum-age/up_to_9_years_old/transmission/automatic/price-to/10000/channel/cars/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/body-type/hatchback/usedcars/quantity-of-doors/3/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/postcode/ng229wl/radius/1501/page/1/price-from/5000/quicksearch/true/make/volkswagen/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/golf?logcode=p


http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201503051466344/sort/pricedesc/onesearchad/used%2Cnearlynew%2Cnew/price-from/5000/engine-size-cars/2l_to_2-5l/channel/cars/make/volkswagen/body-type/hatchback/postcode/ng229wl/maximum-mileage/up_to_100000_miles/quantity-of-doors/3/seller-type/trade_adverts/model/golf/page/1/radius/1501/usedcars/maximum-age/up_to_7_years_old/price-to/10000/transmission/automatic?logcode=p

[sandancer]

Having previously owned a 2006 GTI and now driving a 2006 r32, I'll chuck in my views..........
The r32 has everything the gti had but it somehow feels a bit more special (to me anyway!)
Fantastic grip, boot it out of a wet junction and you're off without a hint of drama, 3rd gear wheel spin in an ed30 I would guess......
Great engine with bags of torque, 20 mph in 6th gear is no problem, you can more or less leave it in higher gears all the time around town. The lazy power delivery (at lower revs anyway) suits my 40 something driving style now as well. Stick your foot down though and you're be hard pushed to find ANY car with that kind of sound track !
Mpg is worse but not as bad as I expected, 19 mpg stop/start with cold engine round town and up to 33-34 on a steady 65-70 gentle run. A road blasts with general running around will see about 23-25 average I reckon. My gti averaged 28 mpg in my ownership so its not a million miles away. Mind you, I was originally looking for an ed30 but they're few and far between for sensible money and miles, so I looked at the R. As soon as you hear one start and blip that throttle you'll more or less get the cash out your pocket - seriously !
I picked up a 55 plate steel grey manual 5door with 86k, 2 owners and stacks of history for £7700, cheaper road tax too!
Try one, you'll be sold on it!

[Matthewsimone]

Here's another spanner in the works for you  but seriously for around your 10k budget maybe an absolute smidge more for a nice one have you considered a 2006 onwards Audi S3? 265bhp, 4wd 3pg+ and with a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds will blow the doors off a Eddie or R32

Worth considering mate, deffinately something im considering upgrading my Gti to when I can be bothered 

[irish_ram]

Here's another spanner in the works for you  but seriously for around your 10k budget maybe an absolute smidge more for a nice one have you considered a 2006 onwards Audi S3? 265bhp, 4wd 3pg+ and with a 0-60 time of 5.7 seconds will blow the doors off a Eddie or R32

Worth considering mate, deffinately something im considering upgrading my Gti to when I can be bothered 

I have looked at the Audi's and they do seem like powerful machines but not sure if I like the look of them as much as the golfs