New car on Tuesday ....Cited !

[T88OMM]

Glad to hear all went well and you are happy with the car, Superchips should sort the problem in no time 

[subaru26675]

I phoned up superchips again and they just reiterated that i have the latest map for a manual edition 30 and nothing else they can do ??
They said i should maybe take it to my local vw garage and have it checked out 

Hmmmmm, thinking about reverting to standard and going for the revo trial.

[Hedge]

I have given you some pointers in your other thread.

As it stands I don't think the Revo trial will be a good solution as you don't know why there is a problem and a visit to your local VW dealer because your remap doesn't work would not be a good move. 

Perhaps try a local independent VAG specialist. 

[bowie]

How about someone with Vagcom near him taking some logs of boost, etc.

Chris.

[subaru26675]

How about someone with Vagcom near him taking some logs of boost, etc.

Chris.

Is there anyone here in Aberdeen area with a vagcom that could assist me, i would be forever grateful and would see you ok financially as well 

[182_blue]

I have had my battery disconnected for a while yesterday so i think my ECU has reset (making it like a fresh install of the bluefin) and the car feels  different , boost takes a little longer to come on and i reckon when the car has learned my driving style again it will be just like before  , perhaps yours will get better with the miles ?

[golfman]

How about someone with Vagcom near him taking some logs of boost, etc.

Chris.

Is there anyone here in Aberdeen area with a vagcom that could assist me, i would be forever grateful and would see you ok financially as well 

I know someone who has vag-com but he stays in dunfermline which is a fair treck away for you!!!
just let me know and i will contact him if you want

golfman

[subaru26675]

thanks mate but thats a near 300 mile round trip for me, a little bit too far afield. 
Again thanks for the offer.
Kev.

[keith]

P/M Dj Horace on here he has vagcom and resides in the Granite city he might be able to help you out.

[subaru26675]

Ah good shout, he stays not too far from me actually, and my mate knows him well so thanks for the heads up 

[subaru26675]

What i should really do is put the standard map back in and take it to my local VW garage, i would of thought they would of been able to check all the relevant pressures / actuators / sensors with their VAGCOM .....it still has over a year warranty on it so no harm in asking them to check it out is there.

[Top Cat]

What i should really do is put the standard map back in and take it to my local VW garage, i would of thought they would of been able to check all the relevant pressures / actuators / sensors with their VAGCOM .....it still has over a year warranty on it so no harm in asking them to check it out is there.

I think they will charge you a few bob, if they dont find any faults that is not warranty.

Have you had a look at your DV. Its easy to get too with the KO4. 

[subaru26675]

Where is it on the k04    Bit embarrasing really not knowing but the VW is all new to me,  been used to fiddling with impreza engines in the past.
I was thinking that because i am getting plent boost up the rev range the DV must be ok ?   Worth a check anyway.

[Top Cat]

Where is it on the k04    Bit embarrasing really not knowing but the VW is all new to me,  been used to fiddling with impreza engines in the past.
I was thinking that because i am getting plent boost up the rev range the DV must be ok ?   Worth a check anyway.

Found this thread for you. I only had a quick scan so hopefully it is of use. There is a link on the page. 

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7793.0

[djhorace]

I had a look at this car tonight and VAGCOM showed no faults other than the following

Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 AD
   Component: Radio GR0       034 0033  
   Revision: 0003404S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2H6205447
   Coding: 0040402
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200

1 Fault Found:
00857 - CD Changer Unit (R41)
            014 - Defective - Intermittent

As this has nowt to do with the symptoms mentioned above, we went for a wee blast and did a couple of log runs.

From what I can see, the car is doing everything that is being asked of it. The boost does not seem to increase at any great rate until after 4000rpm as can be seen below;

Friday   11   December   2009   19:58:24                              
1K0 907 115 T      2.0l R4/4V TFSI     0010                                    
                                          
   Group A:   '003            Group B:   '115            Group C:   '230      
      Engine Speed   Intake Air Mass   Throttle Drive   Ignition      Engine Speed   Engine Load   Boost Pressure   Boost Pressure      Rail Pressure   Rail Pressure   Rail Pressure
   TIME         Angle Sensor 1   Timing Angle   TIME         (specified)   (actual)   TIME   (specified)   (actual)   Difference
Marker   STAMP    /min    g/s    %    °ATDC   STAMP    /min    %    mbar    mbar   STAMP    bar    bar    bar
   0.27   2600   36.69   16.5   24.8   0.01   2600   83.5   1110   1430   0.14   109.61   109.94   -0.33
   0.66   2600   20.94   13.7   27.8   0.39   2600   60.2   790   1410   0.51   102.32   102.82   -0.5
   43.58   1720   5.67   4.3   -6   43.7   1720   15   270   1040   43.83   70.92   70.92   0
   43.97   1680   5.53   4.3   -6   44.1   1680   15   270   1040   44.22   70.8   70.8   0
   44.34   1680   5.47   4.3   -6   44.49   1680   14.3   270   1040   44.61   70.84   70.84   0
   44.74   1640   5.31   4.3   -6   44.86   1640   15   270   1040   45   70.77   70.77   0
   45.13   1640   5.36   4.3   -6   45.25   1600   15   270   1040   45.38   70.78   70.78   0
   45.52   1600   5.22   3.9   -6   45.64   1600   15   270   1040   45.76   70.76   70.76   0
   45.89   1600   5.22   3.9   -6   46.03   1600   15   270   1040   46.16   69.43   69.65   -0.22
   46.28   1600   5.11   3.9   -5.3   46.41   1560   15   270   1040   46.55   68.24   68.31   -0.08
   46.67   1600   5.08   3.9   7.5   46.8   1600   14.3   270   1040   46.92   67.14   67.09   0.04
   47.06   1560   5.25   4.3   14.3   47.19   1600   15   290   1040   47.32   66.01   65.38   0.62
   47.44   1560   6.17   4.7   14.3   47.58   1600   17.3   320   1040   47.71   64.65   64.59   0.06
   47.83   1600   7.28   5.9   14.3   47.95   1600   20.3   400   1030   48.1   63.08   62.86   0.22
   48.22   1600   7.89   6.3   14.3   48.34   1600   22.6   410   1040   48.47   61.36   61.59   -0.24
   48.61   1640   8.61   6.7   14.3   48.73   1640   24.1   430   1040   48.86   59.57   59.9   -0.33
   48.98   1640   9.19   7.1   13.5   49.13   1680   25.6   640   1040   49.25   61.63   61.15   0.47
   49.37   1720   18.83   13.3   16.5   49.5   1720   47.4   800   1040   49.64   66.66   66.98   -0.32
   49.77   1760   19.14   13.3   26.3   49.89   1800   49.6   850   1060   50.02   72.01   72.27   -0.27
   50.16   1840   23.56   16.5   26.3   50.28   1880   58.6   980   1080   50.41   77.64   77.84   -0.2
   50.53   1920   27.5   19.2   25.5   50.67   1960   64.7   990   1120   50.8   83.89   83.38   0.51
   50.92   2000   30   19.6   24.8   51.05   2080   66.9   1000   1160   51.19   90.35   90.52   -0.18
   51.32   2160   34.11   20.4   24.8   51.44   2160   71.4   990   1200   51.56   94.86   94.69   0.17
   51.71   2280   36.61   20   23.3   51.83   2320   72.2   990   1250   51.96   98.26   98.43   -0.17
   52.08   2400   37.36   20   23.3   52.22   2440   78.9   1310   1280   52.35   106.01   108.24   -2.23
   52.47   2560   58.28   31   21   52.59   2600   103.8   1570   1390   52.74   109.51   109.29   0.22
   52.86   2760   72.47   56.5   15   52.99   2800   120.3   1570   1510   53.11   109.92   109.49   0.43
   53.25   2960   77.36   46.7   18.8   53.37   3040   120.3   1550   1530   53.5   109.98   110.59   -0.61
   53.62   3160   82.39   40.4   16.5   53.77   3240   120.3   1550   1540   53.89   109.99   109.49   0.5
   54.01   3400   89.5   41.2   17.3   54.14   3480   124.8   1560   1550   54.28   109.99   110.38   -0.39
   54.41   3640   102.36   72.2   16.5   54.53   3720   131.6   1610   1550   54.65   109.99   111.04   -1.05
   54.8   3880   110.25   99.6   20.3   54.92   3960   132.3   1720   1560   55.05   109.99   111.17   -1.18
   55.17   4120   120.67   99.6   18.8   55.32   4200   136.8   1900   1600   55.44   109.99   109.57   0.42
   55.56   4360   150.33   99.6   15.8   55.69   4440   165.4   2060   1920   55.83   109.99   109.08   0.91
   55.95   4680   185.61   99.6   9   56.08   4760   187.2   2150   2160   56.21   109.99   111.97   -1.98
   56.35   5000   193.53   99.6   12   56.47   5120   183.5   2190   2150   56.59   109.99   111.42   -1.43
   56.72   5240   202.86   99.6   12.8   56.86   5360   182   2170   2120   56.98   109.99   108.98   1.01
   57.11   5560   217.72   99.6   12.8   57.24   5600   182.7   2170   2120   57.38   109.99   110.43   -0.44
   57.5   5840   228.11   99.6   12.8   57.63   5880   182   2190   2110   57.75   109.99   111.46   -1.47
   57.89   6080   234.03   99.6   13.5   58.02   6160   178.9   2130   2080   58.14   109.99   109.46   0.53
   58.27   6320   238.94   99.6   15.8   58.41   6400   175.9   2100   2070   58.53   109.99   111.21   -1.22
   58.66   6560   240.94   99.6   18   58.78   6600   171.4   2070   2050   58.92   109.99   115.24   -5.25
   59.05   6760   244.33   98.8   18   59.17   6840   169.9   1680   2050   59.3   105.99   112.42   -6.43
   59.44   6600   19.25   8.6   12   59.56   6360   13.5   290   1580   59.69   109.38   109.38   0
   59.82   5840   15.86   12.2   9   59.95   5240   77.4   1980   1120   60.08   110   103.97   6.03
   60.2   5120   181.97   91.8   15.8   60.33   5120   158.6   900   1950   60.47   95.81   98.55   -2.74
   60.59   4960   10.67   7.1   3.8   60.72   4760   14.3   280   1400   60.84   103.23   103.23   0
   60.98   4360   11.61   9.8   0   61.11   4160   16.5   290   1180   61.23   104.44   104.44   0
   61.36   3800   13.58   9.4   -2.3   61.5   3320   17.3   300   1120   61.63   105.31   105.31   0
   61.75   3200   10.86   7.8   -3.8   61.88   3200   15.8   300   1100   62.02   105.95   105.95   0
   62.14   3200   11.53   8.2   -3.8   62.26   3200   15.8   300   1090   62.39   106.65   106.65   0
   62.53   3160   11.56   8.2   -3.8   62.66   3160   16.5   300   1090   62.78   107.21   107.21   0
   62.91   3120   11.14   7.8   -3.8   63.05   3120   16.5   300   1090   63.17   107.63   107.63   0
   63.3   3080   11.22   7.8   -3.8   63.42   3080   16.5   300   1090   63.56   108.22   108.22   0
   63.69   3080   10.58   7.8   -3.8   63.81   3040   16.5   300   1090   63.94   108.59   108.59   0
   64.08   3040   10.75   7.8   -3.8   64.21   3040   15.8   300   1090   64.33   109.01   109.01   0
   147.61   2240   15.06   8.6   30.8   147.34   2080   53.4   870   1090   147.47   69.81   69.65   0.16
   147.98   1960   6.75   5.1   -4.5   147.73   2160   23.3   280   1120   147.86   66.91   67.72   -0.81
   148.38   1480   21.56   14.1   8.3   148.12   1920   16.5   590   1070   148.25   68.59   67.01   1.58
   148.76   1680   22.33   14.9   22.5   148.5   1600   57.9   890   1080   148.64   73.01   72.55   0.46
   149.16   1840   24.06   15.7   25.5   148.89   1720   58.6   930   1110   149.02   78.17   78.77   -0.61
   149.53   2000   26.89   17.3   26.3   149.28   1880   58.6   950   1130   149.41   84.03   83.95   0.08
   149.92   2160   26.56   15.7   26.3   149.67   2080   62.4   920   1160   149.79   87.56   88.71   -1.16
   150.32   2040   5.58   5.1   -6.8   150.05   2200   39.8   410   1170   150.19   82.89   85.82   -2.93
   150.71   1840   5.92   4.7   -6   150.44   1960   15.8   280   1120   150.56   81.31   81.37   -0.07
   151.08   1560   7.69   9.8   12   150.83   1680   15.8   270   1080   150.95   80.09   79.88   0.21
   151.47   1560   17.44   11.8   21.8   151.22   1600   39.8   730   1060   151.34   77.61   77.04   0.57
   151.86   1640   15.78   10.6   28.5   151.59   1640   47.4   770   1080   151.73   74.25   73.8   0.44
   152.25   1720   15.81   10.6   30   151.98   1680   43.6   690   1090   152.11   73.61   73.74   -0.13
   152.62   1800   30.89   25.1   21   152.37   1720   42.9   810   1090   152.5   75.93   75.07   0.86
   153.02   1920   41.61   54.5   18   152.77   1840   88   1450   1110   152.89   80.85   80.59   0.26
   153.41   2080   52.14   71.4   16.5   153.14   1960   97   1520   1210   153.28   86.16   86.17   -0.02
   153.8   2280   64.06   72.2   13.5   153.53   2160   109.8   1550   1350   153.66   91.01   91.42   -0.42
   154.17   2480   77.39   65.5   10.5   153.93   2360   124.8   1560   1520   154.04   96.44   96.75   -0.31
   154.56   2720   79.67   54.1   11.3   154.31   2560   138.3   1560   1690   154.43   101.51   102.09   -0.58
   154.95   2960   83.53   39.2   14.3   154.69   2800   137.6   1560   1710   154.83   107.13   106.85   0.28
   155.34   3160   85.28   37.6   18   155.08   3040   129.3   1530   1670   155.2   109.56   109.63   -0.07
   155.72   3400   91.42   40   16.5   155.47   3240   127.1   1530   1610   155.59   109.94   110.31   -0.37
   156.11   3600   102.36   64.7   18.8   155.86   3440   127.1   1550   1580   155.98   109.99   109.41   0.57
   156.5   3800   109.39   99.2   19.5   156.23   3680   134.6   1580   1570   156.38   109.99   110.48   -0.49
   156.89   4040   117.61   99.6   20.3   156.63   3880   134.6   1680   1570   156.75   109.99   109.54   0.45
   157.27   4280   130.53   99.6   18.8   157.01   4120   136.8   1820   1590   157.14   109.99   108.32   1.67
   157.66   4520   182.83   99.6   10.5   157.4   4320   148.1   2000   1700   157.53   109.99   109.2   0.79
   158.05   4800   193.31   99.6   7.5   157.78   4600   182.7   2090   2100   157.93   109.99   111.47   -1.48
   158.44   5080   192.97   99.6   12.8   158.17   4920   186.5   2160   2180   158.3   109.99   110.97   -0.98
   158.82   5320   207.56   99.6   10.5   158.56   5160   179.7   2160   2110   158.69   109.99   107.52   2.47
   159.21   5600   219.36   99.6   12.8   158.95   5440   182   2140   2100   159.08   109.99   110.33   -0.34
   159.59   5840   228.22   99.6   11.3   159.33   5640   182   2150   2100   159.47   109.99   112.13   -2.14
   159.98   6080   232.14   99.6   13.5   159.72   5920   182.7   2160   2090   159.84   109.99   110.32   -0.33
   160.36   6280   236.86   99.6   15   160.11   6160   178.2   2110   2070   160.23   109.99   107.74   2.25
   160.75   6520   242.36   99.6   18   160.5   6360   175.2   2080   2070   160.63   109.99   111.46   -1.47
   161.14   6720   244.56   98   18   160.88   6600   172.2   2070   2050   161.02   109.99   113.35   -3.36
   161.53   6840   234.69   52.5   9   161.27   6760   175.9   1700   2050   161.39   109.99   114.54   -4.55
   161.91   6720   56.31   8.2   13.5   161.65   6920   142.1   1420   2110   161.78   109.99   110.69   -0.7
   162.3   5920   16.97   12.2   9.8   162.05   6400   15   290   1500   162.17   124.82   124.82   0
   162.69   5080   16.36   11   3.8   162.42   5640   17.3   290   1220   162.56   125.36   125.36   0
   163.08   4960   17.36   11.4   3   162.82   5000   17.3   280   1140   162.94   125.56   125.56   0
   163.45   4920   17.69   11.4   3   163.2   4960   16.5   280   1120   163.33   125.65   125.65   0
   163.84   4600   17.08   11.4   1.5   163.6   4880   16.5   280   1100   163.72   125.65   125.65   0
   164.24   4040   15.14   10.2   -1.5   163.97   4400   17.3   290   1090   164.11   125.48   125.48   0
   164.63   3440   13.28   8.6   -3   164.36   3840   18   290   1100   164.49   125.45   125.45   0
   165   3080   10.61   7.5   -3.8   164.75   3000   18   300   1100   164.88   125.43   125.43   0
   165.39   3040   10.5   7.8   -3.8   165.14   3040   16.5   300   1100   165.27   125.36   125.36   0
   165.78   3000   10.17   7.5   -3.8   165.52   3040   15.8   300   1090   165.66   125.37   125.37   0
   166.17   2960   10.33   7.5   -4.5   165.91   3000   15.8   300   1090   166.03   125.25   125.25   0
   166.54   2960   10.53   7.5   -4.5   166.3   2960   16.5   300   1090   166.42   125.19   125.19   0
   166.94   2920   10.42   7.5   -4.5   166.69   2920   15.8   300   1090   166.82   125.13   125.13   0
   167.33   2880   10.03   7.5   -4.5   167.06   2920   15.8   290   1080   167.2   125.16   125.16   0
   167.72   2840   10   7.1   -4.5   167.45   2880   15.8   290   1080   167.58   125.04   125.04   0
   168.09   2800   9.69   7.1   -4.5   167.84   2840   15.8   290   1080   167.96   124.9   124.9   0
   168.48   2800   9.69   7.1   -4.5   168.23   2800   15.8   290   1080   168.36   124.89   124.89   0
   168.88   2760   9.64   7.1   -4.5   168.61   2800   15.8   290   1080   168.75   124.88   124.88   0
   169.27   2760   9.61   7.1   -4.5   169   2760   15.8   290   1080   169.13   122.2   120.81   1.38
   169.64   2720   9.67   7.1   -3.8   169.39   2720   15.8   290   1070   169.51   120.07   117.99   2.08
   170.03   2680   9.36   7.1   -4.5   169.78   2720   15.8   290   1070   169.9   118.04   118.98   -0.95
   170.42   2680   9.31   7.1   7.5   170.16   2680   15.8   290   1070   170.3   115.95   116.47   -0.52
   170.81   2640   9.19   6.7   -2.3   170.55   2680   15.8   290   1060   170.67   113.87   114.63   -0.77
   171.18   2640   9.33   6.7   -2.3   170.94   2640   15.8   290   1060   171.06   115.19   115.19   0
   171.58   2600   9.19   6.7   -2.3   171.33   2640   15.8   290   1070   171.45   115.42   115.42   0
   171.97   2600   8.92   6.7   -4.5   171.7   2600   15.8   290   1070   171.84   115.64   115.64   0
   172.36   2560   8.78   6.7   -4.5   172.09   2560   15.8   290   1070   172.22   115.85   115.85   0
   172.74   2560   8.44   6.3   -3   172.48   2560   15.8   290   1070   172.61   113.23   111.83   1.4
   173.13   2520   8.64   6.3   0   172.87   2520   15.8   280   1060   173   111.2   111.21   -0.01
   173.52   2520   8.67   6.3   7.5   173.25   2520   15.8   280   1060   173.39   109.34   109.61   -0.27
   173.91   2480   9.75   7.1   18   173.64   2520   15.8   310   1060   173.76   107.51   107.1   0.41
   174.28   2480   11.83   8.2   17.3   174.03   2480   18   390   1050   174.16   105.33   105.05   0.28
   174.67   2480   11.67   8.2   16.5   174.42   2480   21.8   390   1050   174.55   102.95   103.07   -0.12
   175.06   2440   13.22   9.4   16.5   174.79   2480   21.8   400   1060   174.94   100.2   100.23   -0.03
   175.45   2440   13.83   9.4   15.8   175.19   2440   24.8   440   1060   175.31   97.5   97.3   0.2
   175.83   2440   13.61   9.4   15.8   175.57   2440   24.8   440   1060   175.7   94.47   94.2   0.26
   176.22   2440   13.36   9.4   15.8   175.97   2440   25.6   440   1060   176.1   91.73   91.84   -0.11
   176.61   2440   13.61   9.4   15.8   176.34   2440   25.6   450   1070   176.48   88.78   88.25   0.53
   177   2440   13.42   9.4   15.8   176.74   2440   25.6   450   1070   176.86   86.21   86.02   0.18


Knowing how boost comes in on a Revo and GIAC car, this does not seem normal. As you can see the requested and actual boost are fairly well matched, and the requested boost is not going past 1 Bar until after 4000rpm. There is no shortage of fuel either.

Is it normal for a Bluefin map to only ask for boost after 4000 rpm? If so, it seems a little strange to me given that the spool point is way before this in the rev range.

Answers on a post card please  

PS - If someone can tell me if there is a quote function to list log files properly, i will do so. It was a little hard posting the end of this message as the text seems to keep jumping in the box as it is scrolled way down in the message window, so sorry for any typos and crap spelling in this post