Anyone else gone from CTR to MARK 5 GTI

[winrya]

The good thing about the GTI is that it doesn't feel turbocharged, just torque everywhere

my mate has a type r and when the gti was standard there was nothing between them when pushing them. The problem with the type r was you have to get the revs perfect and that's tough on populated roads. The gti is def quicker on normal roads due to the way the power is delivered. Now remapped the gti leaves my mates type r for dead at all speeds.

[NB07]

its quite funny i think as my mate bangs on about his 215 horses now he has CAI and when i leave him on a blast he always maintains he had to slow down for something in the road or another excuse! makes me laugh every time i see him, probably why he doesnt come to play with me any more 

[jwm]

The golf is sounding more and more appealing now, hopefully take one for a spin soon.

[jwm]

its quite funny i think as my mate bangs on about his 215 horses now he has CAI and when i leave him on a blast he always maintains he had to slow down for something in the road or another excuse! makes me laugh every time i see him, probably why he doesnt come to play with me any more 

doubt it is as much as 215 ponies if its just a cai tbh

[Poverty]

250hp isnt hard to get from a ctr from what I have been told by some owners. A well driven CTR with some bolt ones will be as quick as a mapped gti imo.

Depends on what you want from a car. What you really need is VAG with a k04 turbo like a ed30 or cupra 

[Janner_Sy]

I dont reckon it would. to get 250BHP out of a CTR you would have to do alot of stuff to it. most of the maps on them dont increase the HP that much as they are normally aspirated. They normally bring the RPM much lower that the VTEC cuts in.

iirc to get good power out of a ctr you need a turbo upgrade and then they become weapons.

Even if it was making similar power BHp wise to a stage 2 GTI, the GTI would still out do it, due to the huge torque differences due to being a turbo'd platform.

[jwm]

To get anywhere near 250hp from a ctr would need a lot of cash, kpro ecu for a start would be around 1000 and thats without exhaust, air intake, manifold, cams, etc then mapping the kpro to suit, maybe lsd also.

[Poverty]

I dont reckon it would. to get 250BHP out of a CTR you would have to do alot of stuff to it. most of the maps on them dont increase the HP that much as they are normally aspirated. They normally bring the RPM much lower that the VTEC cuts in.

iirc to get good power out of a ctr you need a turbo upgrade and then they become weapons.

Even if it was making similar power BHp wise to a stage 2 GTI, the GTI would still out do it, due to the huge torque differences due to being a turbo'd platform.

well I was chatting to a guy and h told me full exhaust with new manifold, along with some other bits takes the ctr up to 250hp and 9000rpm rev limit. I know that from a standing start his is definetlty on par with a mapped gti going to 120mph.

Have come across a charged type r when I was running a map and a pump and mine was ever so slightly quicker but not quick enough to pull past him.

[Janner_Sy]

it might well have 250bhp but your tallking alot of money in comparison to just adding a Sports DP and Cat, and stage 2 remap to a GTI.

I know that from a standing start his is definetlty on par with a mapped gti going to 120mph.

Stage 1 maybe, its not just power, its torque as well, and the TFSI wins that hands down

[jhtrophy]

cant see a standard golf keeeping up with ctr, but i may be wrong

[animal]

cant see a standard golf keeeping up with ctr, but i may be wrong

It's easy to give a CTR a hard time with a DSG 170 TDI (from experience), so I cant see a GTI having a hard time.

[Janner_Sy]

from a standing start very very even. around twisty roads the golf wont need to be revving like crazy to go fast, so i think the golf would have it.

[Poverty]

from a standing start very very even. around twisty roads the golf wont need to be revving like crazy to go fast, so i think the golf would have it.

no way the Gti would get worked, torque isn't everything, alot of the worlds quickest cars don't hve alot of torque but are high revvers like the ctr

[Janner_Sy]

there wouldnt be much in it your right, the golf wouldnt just dissapear but if you get the gear wrong in the type R you will have noting unless you change down. TFSI is much more forgiving and will still pull due to torque.

your also right torque isnt everything, but having about 40IBFT+ over the entire rev range means alot. one caryou hsve to rag to drive fast the other one you dont.

[Leeds s3]

i went from a type r to an s3, im still a big fan of the type r and always think of getting another.

As an all rounder yes the golf is better (but also costs more)

Forget all the bullsh*t about the lack of torque as the gearing makes up for it, driven properly the type r is as quick as a standard gti.

Its is a lot harsher however and can sometimes be tiresome but on a nice dry stretch of road when you want to go for a drive the ep3 is brilliant, sharp and poised.