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Help - Limp Mode
« on: May 18, 2015, 09:40:12 am »
Hi all, I've seen a good few of these in the past and I know there's a few solutions so maybe someone could shed some light.

I was driving 100miles at 120km/hr. Pulled over for 2 mins and left car running. Got back into car and merged again with motorway so I brought the revs to maybe 4K in each gear. When I got to 110km/hr the engine management light and traction control light came on and it went into limp mode.

I pulled over and turned engine off. When turning it off there was an awful heavy noise.

The car started up fine and has done since, as if nothing is any different.

(Note - I cleaned that mayo off the oil cap 2 days prior and gave the inside rim a wipe with a tissue because there was some slight crusty burnt on oil. I stopped doing this in fear that some of the gritty bits might fall into the oil itself. I am due my oil service which I had booked in this week already.)

Could those gritty bits have fallen in and blocked the mesh filter?

Oil pick up pipe?

High pressure fuel pump?

My vcds failed recently so I'm buying a genuine one this week, should be here in a few days so I'll scan then if VW won't do it for me with the oil change.
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2015, 10:49:06 am »
Anybody able to advise?

VCDS Version: Beta 15.5.0 (x64)
Data version: 20150510
www.Ross-Tech.com

Tuesday,19,May,2015,10:48:19:01600

Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 37 42 44 46 52 55 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W016186   Mileage: 121380km-75422miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine        Labels: 06F-907-115-AXX.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 115     HW: 1K0 907 115
   Component: 2.0l R4/4V TFSI G00 0070 
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E2229144
   Coding: 0403000318070160
   Shop #: WSC 00840 941 80257
   VCID: 63C5EBB0A253F827F2-8036

2 Faults Found:
001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys
               P0441 - 002 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100010
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 8
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 116214 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 15:23:48

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 834 /min
                    Load: 17.2 %
                    Speed: 0.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 77.0°C
                    Temperature: 28.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.097 V

004917 - Engine Torque Monitor 2
               P1335 - 008 - Control Limit Exceeded - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101000
                    Fault Priority: 0
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 121263 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 16:14:59

             Freeze Frame:
                    RPM: 2723 /min
                    Load: 69.0 %
                    Speed: 110.0 km/h
                    Temperature: 93.0°C
                    Temperature: 17.0°C
                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
                    Voltage: 14.478 V

Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 Q    HW: 1K0 907 379 Q
   Component: ESP FRONT MK60      0102 
   Revision: 00T12001   
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 408F043C1385833FCF-8015

1 Fault Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
            013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BA
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 066 0606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 67DDFFA0566B94072E-8032

2 Faults Found:
01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E    HW: 3C0 937 049 E
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002 
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000001936888
   Coding: E70F8E0700041800001400001400000000087F075C
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2B5543908A0370670A-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW350  012  0402 
   Coding: 00065493
   Shop #: WSC 01279 

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 R  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
   Component: RegenLichtSens 010  1010 
   Coding: 00207646
   Shop #: WSC 01279 

4 Faults Found:
02092 - Enabling Heated Seat
            009 - Open or Short to Ground - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101001
                    Fault Priority: 5
                    Fault Frequency: 120
                    Reset counter: 128
                    Mileage: 110244 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.85 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01049 - Supply Voltage Term 50
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00111100
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 107
                    Mileage: 118573 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 12.20 V
                        OFF
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 192
                    Reset counter: 128
                    Mileage: 110244 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.90 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 192
                    Reset counter: 128
                    Mileage: 110244 km
                    Time Indication: 0

             Freeze Frame:
                        ON
                    Voltage: 11.95 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        OFF
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 N    HW: 1K0 909 605 N
   Component: 2F AIRBAG VW8   015 2100 
   Revision: 03015000    Serial number: 0038ED0FEKTU 
   Coding: 0012870
   Shop #: WSC 01269 785 00200
   VCID: 377D6FE0464BC4877E-8062

   Subsystem 1 - Serial number: 6332MSME0A7E314DN

   Subsystem 2 - Serial number: 6342MSME0A7E1D26P

   Subsystem 3 - Serial number: 6351HSME07521F2BA

   Subsystem 4 - Serial number: 6361HSME07485A7CL

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3A2E401C17D8FA5-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 972
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1112 
   Coding: 0007403
   Shop #: WSC 56912 001 1048576
   VCID: 6FED97807E9B4C4766-803A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120 
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800105611071D
   Coding: 7D3F0348070003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B469485F9696FF1-807F

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 972
   Component: IMMO            VDD 1112 
   Shop #: WSC 00840 941 95492
   VCID: 6FED97807E9B4C4766-803A

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 37: Navigation        Labels: 1T0-919-887.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 919 887 E
   Component:      Navigation     0525 
   Coding: 0000002
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 4487082C079D9F1FEB-8011

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 701 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2348 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 366362E441413D8F65-8063

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 J
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.5   D04 1606 
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 33655BF0523328A742-8066

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 AR    HW: 1K0 959 433 AR
   Component: 01 KSG PQ35 G2  010 0101 
   Revision: 00010000    Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 999802085103087F6D0484057008DFC690A440
   Shop #: WSC 00840 941 95492
   VCID: 000FC43C5305433F8F-8055

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H05 1501

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K0 951 177 A
   Component: Innenraumueberw.005 0202

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 702 K
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2348 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 377D6FE0464BC4877E-8062

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 55: Headlight Range        Labels: 1T0-907-357.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 907 357
   Component: Dynamische LWR      0002 
   Coding: 0000003
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74E798EC17BD6F9F9B-8021

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1T0-035-095.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 035 095 A
   Component:        Radio        0525 
   Coding: 0001402
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 2C57408C8F0D775F03-8079

No fault code found.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2423 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 33655BF0523328A742-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 F
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2423 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 346758EC573D2F9F5B-8061

No fault code found.

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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2015, 10:55:02 am »
Disregarding the few on heated seats (due to wires being unhooked) and the typical EVAP one everyone gets.....

The one that most likely caused my limp mode was a failure of coil pack 1? P1335

I replaced my sparks exactly 1 year ago.

Do I replace coil pack number 1 or do I replace all of them with the R8 coil packs?
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2015, 11:03:16 am »
Depends on money. I'd prefer the upgraded R8's all round. By sounds of things they dont fail as oftern if ever. Seems the logical next step if you can.

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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2015, 11:34:45 am »
That's actually my preference but they won't be delivered before Friday to Ireland and I've to make a 150mile journey so I better get it replaced.

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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2015, 12:15:03 pm »
Where do you get a fail of coilpack 1 from?

Read here:
http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/17743/P1335
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2015, 02:03:31 pm »
sh*te! Good spot, I hit P1355 not P1335.

Do you think that's my MAF sensor on the way out?

It's working fine the past 8 drives?
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2015, 02:14:11 pm »
Choice of 3 sensors failing or an air leak. Data logging with VCDS will tell you which. Monitor the IAT reading, MAF reading and Coolant Temp reading during normal driving, from cold, through to full throttle runs when warm.

Check fuel trims and Lambda correction for evidence of an air leak, and if trims are high and MAF seems ok - go hunting for a leak
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2015, 02:22:34 pm »
Dan you're a gentleman. I've literally just bought VCDS today so all of this logging is new to me.

If it's not too much trouble and you're up for it I'd appreciate a very brief how to on that?

How would monitor these readings from VCDS?

Fuel trims and lambda correction on VCDS?
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Re: Help - Limp Mode
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2015, 07:45:55 am »
Is the car mapped or standard?

Measuring blocks is what you need. Fuel trim info is given as a clickable link in the Rosstech link i posted above

Find the measuring blocks for the sensors mentioned and check their readings. IAT and Coolant temp should read the same as ambient temp (give or take a degree or 2) before starting the car once it has stood overnight) IAT should stay within 10-20 degrees above ambient on a standard intercooler, Coolant temp shoould get up to low 90's and stay there. MAF will need to be logged when driving to see what figures you are getting.

Fuel trims are block 032, they should be fairly close to zero (less than 10%). More could indicate a leak, or a faulty MAF. Again info can be found through the link i sent.

From a quick google it sounds as if it's either the MAF or an airleak. post up the trim numbers from 032 when you can
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